• FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Libs who live in population centers which will undoubtedly be targets in a nuclear exchange: :dead-dove-1: :dead-dove-2: :dead-dove-3: :blob-on-fire:

    Me, living far enough to avoid obliteration but not fallout: :smoothskin:

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Whenever I see libs say that or that they "like our chances" in a nuclear exchange, I think of that line from Dr. Strangelove where General Turgidson is advocating for a preemptive nuclear strike:

      Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops.

      Of course, Dr. Strangelove is satire and these reddit nerds are serious.

    • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Me smugly pointing out Russia's nuclear incompetence as 100s of US cities are engulfed in old and ineffective atomic hellfire.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    lmao no way does Russia let the nukes fly over Crimea. The only scenario in which a modern country uses nuclear weapons is if they're losing heaps of home turf to an invading force and literally have nothing left to lose.

          • bigboopballs [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Russians have hands down the best air defense system in the entire world.

            what makes them the best?

            • fifthedition [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              Being opposite the most technically skilled air force in the world.

              Even back in Vietnam, Russian SAMs scored an impressive kill count against the USAF.

          • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            NATO does not have the capacity to win a conventional land war against Russia.

            Then why is Ukraine winning large parts of territory back?

            The Russians have hands down the best air defense system in the entire world.

            So how come they failed to eliminate the Ukrainian air force and did not achieve air dominance?

            • fifthedition [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              Then why is Ukraine winning large parts of territory back?

              They're not NATO.

              So how come they failed to eliminate the Ukrainian air force and did not achieve air dominance?

              Someone doesn't understand what air defense is or what it does. You can't win an offensive campaign with air defense.

              • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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                2 years ago
                NATO does not have the capacity to win a conventional land war against Russia.
                

                Then why is Ukraine winning large parts of territory back?

                They’re not NATO.

                They're a weaker opponent then NATO, so it should be easier to defeat them...

            • kristina [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              Then why is Ukraine winning large parts of territory back?

              they arent? lmao

              the borders for the war have barely changed at all in months

              • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                What? This is simply not true. Ukraine took back a large territory in the Kharkiv region and a smaller piece between Kherson and Mykolaiv.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The only scenario in which a modern country uses nuclear weapons is if they’re losing heaps of home turf to an invading force and literally have nothing left to lose.

      We'd all hope that, but let's not forget that 100% of historical use of nuclear weapons in anger can be attributed to some mix of "conventional invasion will be too hard" and "that'll show them not to mess with us".

      • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        “conventional invasion will be too hard” and “that’ll show them not to mess with us”.

        don't forget "if we swing our big dick around we can cheat the Soviets out of agreed upon terms"

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      the Russians have repeatedly pointed to Ukraine as a red button issue. I do not want to test them

      none of us thought they would invade Ukraine either remember

  • landlord [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Tfw you live in a major city and are within 100 metres of the cities industrial transport links, communications and power distribution for the city.

    :gigachad: I’m getting instantly vaporized no matter how it goes down

    • jackmarxist [any]
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      2 years ago

      Instantly getting vaporized is actually the good ending in a nuclear war. Probably S-Tier I'd say.

  • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Libs in 2016: If Trump is elected he will start WW3.

    Libs in 2022: We have to start WW3 to stop Putin.

    • edge [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      tbf Hillary wanted a no fly zone in Syria which would have caused WW3 anyway.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It's wild how they managed to make "battlefield air superiority", one of the most involved and difficult to accomplish tasks in modern war, sound like something a toddler would do.

        :blob-no-thoughts: "no fly zone! I control this playground now!"

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    :wojak-nooo: : "noooo ukraine will take moscow without nukes putin would never use a tactical nukerino nooooo"