You hate to see conservative socialism folks

The whole thread is a doozy. https://twitter.com/SpaceLarouche/status/1583151971225071617

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    • BerserkPoster [none/use name]
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      I think for the first few decades we could get working hours down to 40 hours a week for mostly everyone. We would need a lot of people to build public infrastructure, green energy, housing, agriculture, etc. We could put everyone to work 40 hours and be on a good path instead of some people regularly working 60+ hours a week and other people working more who are underemployed. Then as workload decreases, we could see a backing off period of possibly 35 hour weeks, 30 hour weeks... etc as automation takes over. It also depends on the job. This also must be accompanied by education/trade programs. It just seems that we have so much damn work to do to turn the ship around that expecting any serious decrease over the standard 40 hour week seems difficult.

      That being said, we really shouldn't try and push work to take over our lives even more than it is now. There's a reason our ancestors fought for the 8 hour work day and we shouldn't backslide on that

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        • BerserkPoster [none/use name]
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          It's definitely possible, even likely, that we would reduce work hours entirely, the way you laid it out is pretty convincing. I think you are probably correct in that a 35 hour, or 30 hour week could easily work within a socialist economy while maintaining the base level of living standards (that is, everyone eats and can take part in recreation, but there are less treats). I'm not so sure about within a capitalist economy though, I think since capitalism requires ever increasing profit and growth, it requires an increase in productivity and stagnating wages to sustain itself. But we weren't originally talking about capitalist economy anyway.

          I guess it's just hard to imagine a world where I work less while also actually working to solve real problems that need solving, not working for some capitalist company making widgets. And it's also hard to imagine that there wouldn't be an enormous amount of work that needs to be done. But we also have a lot of people.

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