Seems wacky and unscientific to 21st century laymen. Not obvious how concepts were discovered, it's the kind of stuff (especially before much knowledge of physical brain) that you could just make up and for me it didn't "click" like Marxism. Also possibly because in school you're taught that Freud was a pioneer but mostly wrong and liked cocaine (at least I was) and folks don't look much more.
Src: I read 3/4 of a library book about Lacan and then lost it.
e: I'm not trying to argue for a position here, I am undecided, this is just why I think this site doesn't vibe with it.
Never been psychoanalysed myself but the general cultural exposure to it comes off as similar to profiling to me, where you can just say shit in an authoritative position and as long as it isn't absolutely ludicrus and objectively disproven in some way its cool. Not a lot of showing the work(from what I can tell).
Plus it has been used a lot as a personal tool of revenge and escalating grudges by using the language of psychoanalysis(though this is not unique when it comes to the field of psychiatry) to smear someone as secretly all kinds of horrible things based on vague observations backed up by authoritative language. Could be argued that this is more a disease of social media relations than a disease of psychoanalysis but it has colored my perception of it, by its nature as a psychiatric tool you are always more likely to hear about the horror tales and pop culture misuses of it, cause doctors cant exactly brag about the private successes with their patients.
I mean personally I just shit on an attachment to particular figures. I know fuckall about it, but my impression is that when somebody's really big on specifically Jung or Freud it tends to indicate that they reject advancements past them.
Same reason I make fun of people getting too into Nietzsche or whoever - not a rejection of philosophy but a rejection of treating a pioneer of a field like they Got It Right, so to speak
It's super common across cults in general. Even ones that claim to have room in their cosmology for regular ol' psychological conditions will typically pressure you to conceive of and treat your symptoms as spiritual ones, within their framework of course.
amazing, two different types of garbage
Accurate garbage for the time period, though.
:yea:
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Seems wacky and unscientific to 21st century laymen. Not obvious how concepts were discovered, it's the kind of stuff (especially before much knowledge of physical brain) that you could just make up and for me it didn't "click" like Marxism. Also possibly because in school you're taught that Freud was a pioneer but mostly wrong and liked cocaine (at least I was) and folks don't look much more.
Src: I read 3/4 of a library book about Lacan and then lost it.
e: I'm not trying to argue for a position here, I am undecided, this is just why I think this site doesn't vibe with it.
Never been psychoanalysed myself but the general cultural exposure to it comes off as similar to profiling to me, where you can just say shit in an authoritative position and as long as it isn't absolutely ludicrus and objectively disproven in some way its cool. Not a lot of showing the work(from what I can tell).
Plus it has been used a lot as a personal tool of revenge and escalating grudges by using the language of psychoanalysis(though this is not unique when it comes to the field of psychiatry) to smear someone as secretly all kinds of horrible things based on vague observations backed up by authoritative language. Could be argued that this is more a disease of social media relations than a disease of psychoanalysis but it has colored my perception of it, by its nature as a psychiatric tool you are always more likely to hear about the horror tales and pop culture misuses of it, cause doctors cant exactly brag about the private successes with their patients.
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It literally is just because of Kermit peterson
no the shit sucked before that too
I mean personally I just shit on an attachment to particular figures. I know fuckall about it, but my impression is that when somebody's really big on specifically Jung or Freud it tends to indicate that they reject advancements past them.
Same reason I make fun of people getting too into Nietzsche or whoever - not a rejection of philosophy but a rejection of treating a pioneer of a field like they Got It Right, so to speak
I've learned that knee-jerk hostility to psychology online is a tell for Scientologists. Their org literally tells them to do this.
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It's super common across cults in general. Even ones that claim to have room in their cosmology for regular ol' psychological conditions will typically pressure you to conceive of and treat your symptoms as spiritual ones, within their framework of course.