• CyberSyndicalist [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      There must be at least one guy who has taken this arc

      1. post 9/11 Islamophobia
      2. enemy of my enemy is my friend, ally with evangelical Christians to hate on Islam
      3. adopt christian misogyny, homophobia etc from cultural osmosis
      4. notice some Islamic cultures have more institutionalized misogyny
      5. convert to Islam
      • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        didn't that exact thing happen several times with several PROTEC EVROPA politicians in europe?

        • CTHlurker [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I think that particular section is more about them seeing Jews as a bigger threat than the "brown hordes" themselves, so they decide to convert to islam, since today the muslim world has a way more adverserial relationship to Israel (and jews in general) than the west, and these people want to kill jews.

  • UlyssesT
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    2 months ago

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    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I highly doubt that a grifter whose entire business is largely based on trafficking webcam girls and selling that lifestyle to his audience is going to 'use Islam to follow a much more positive path'. The more lucrative path adheres more towards that of the Saudis or other Gulf State families. This is a path that for him will more than likely lead towards slavery.

      More to the point, religion is never really an identity or morality, it is a justification for your identity or morality. That is why lost men and boys cling to conservative faith as though it were a bouy in a storm. A valiant effort, but capital has already drowned all the gods of men.

      (This goes for conservative 'freethinkers' as well. An asshole Christian makes an asshole atheist in my experience.)

      • Heaven_and_Earth [she/her]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        More to the point, religion is never really an identity or morality, it is a justification for your identity or morality.

        People raised in a religious household do form their identity and morality from their religion

        • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Agreed to disagree. I have seen too many people who change their religion or sect but retain their fundamental ideas of morality and identity. I have seen very moralizing Christians become very moralizing New Age hippies, guilty Christians become guilty atheists, 'logic' atheists become 'logic' Christians.

          The religion is just so much window dressing, but there is something else forming their morality and sense of identity in my opinion.

          • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            Doesn't this affirm what Heaven_and_Earth is saying though? That these people's morality is informed by these earlier religious beliefs, and despite converting later they retain those same moral principles unexamined?

            I feel like you are not really in disagreement, but maybe I'm misunderstanding your argument.

            • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              No, because those earlier beliefs in morality are not actually tied to the 'religion', unless you are attempting to claim that something like Sunni and Shiite Islam are both not actually Islam. The morality and form of ethics exists regardless of the religion.

              It's kind of the old metaphysical canard of 'Are things good because God says they are good or were they good before God identified them as good?'. I am saying it's the latter. Forms of morality are not inherent to religion otherwise sects wouldn't occur. Therefore, morality precedes religion and religion is simply it's disguise. You can believe whatever you want, though, there is no way to truely definitely prove this stuff.

  • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    what are the odds that their rationale is along the lines of 'owning the left by being a minority religion which can't be cancelled'?

  • dead [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I'm going to say this is real. The prayer video was posted by an mma fighter, Tom Khan, to twitter (blue checkmark).

    quote from Andrew Tate about being muslim cw anti-lgbt

    Andrew Tate has a verified account on gettr (shitty twitter clone), which is also linked on his website. On gettr, 6 hours ago, he posted "This is why I'm Muslim. Any Christian who believes in good and understands the true battle against evil must convert." and then he links to an anti-LGBT video clip saying that Christians support LGBT and that Christians are bad because they support LGBT.

    There's a few other posts mentioning Islam in the past 2-3 days as well but not anything before that.