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  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Oh sup.

    Yeah nah I'm already well aware. Poles were rewarded some areas of Czechoslovakia as a result of the Nazi invasion. There was also the Polish-Czechoslovak war in 1919, which is framed as a Czech invasion of Polish territory by Western powers, but it was in fact a breach of some post WW1 peace agreements by the Polish side and the forcible conscription of people in Czech Silesia by the Polish to go fight socialist Ukrainians. Poland was very expansionist and fascistic and invaded almost every power around them at the time. Boohoo, can't believe the Soviets retook their losses in the Polish-Soviet war when the Nazis came in :wojak-nooo:

    So anyways, the Polish wanted that land plus some extra bits off of Slovakia plus a lil bit extra off of Czechia when they did an agreement with Hitler.

    • Vncredleader
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      2 years ago

      Oh I didn't mean to imply you didn't know the specifics, I know you've spoken about Polish irredentism before. I should've worded that better.

      But yeah Poland is just invading everyone circa 1918-1922 or so. And they love the victim complex, from the whole miracle on that one river when they fended off a Soviet counter offensive following Poland literally invading Ukraine, to the war with the newly formed Czechoslovakia, to the siege of Lwow/Lemberg which kicked off the first Polish-Ukrainian war and is just dripping in hagiography. for real read the wikipedia, the amount of open maturation of Polish nationalism is intense.

      Like this line

      Because of their heroism and mass participation in the fights, they are commonly referred to as Lwów Eaglets. The Polish defenders also included a significant component of petty criminals, who, nevertheless, were valued for their heroism

      Or mentioning the pogroms carried out by Poles in the most passive voice way ever and then unlike the rest of the paragraph, giving no citation for "once the Poles had order they totes punished the people who did this thing". And looking into the pogrom you get a list of Polish "historians" making insane claims that no Ukrainians died in the pogrom, or that more Christians died than Jews so it totally wasn't a pogrom despite said Christians being Greek Orthodox and Russian Orthodox Ukrainians. And a longstanding tradition of Polish claims that it cant be a pogrom if it happens during war.

      Poland LOVES its victim complex and the double holocaust shit because they need it in order to avoid the serious questions that arise when one looks even surface level at Polish history in the 20th century. The fact that people use the fact that Poland got blowback after being a vulture on Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Belarus, and Lithuania, as a means of dissing the USSR is gross.