https://nitter.net/marina0swald/status/1588256345857589248
I didn't watch the episode because their 9/11 episodes led me not to trust them on conspiracy stuff. It looks like I made the right call. Did they really buy the Warren Commission? Lol. Lmao.
A good rule regarding conspiracy theories is the more people that would need to be involved to pull it off, the less believable it should be. JFK and MLK taken out by the TLAs, yeah 100% true. Nixon set up by the CIA, probably. Moon landing hoax and 9-11 inside job stuff, probably not. Secret plots are only able to remain secret if there are a small handful of people that are in on op and they are part of the organization. The number of non-CIA people that would need to be involved with faking the moon landing or no planes on 9-11 is just too high to make those theories credible. I'd totally believe it that the US knew about 9-11 and did nothing, or maybe that OBL was a CIA asset and the high jackings were an op, though, but that's pushing it because, again, you're involving people outside the organization.
I’ve heard this ”rule” before but it just kinda falls apart when you look at something like MKULTRA. That had an order of magnitude more people involved than would be required for 9/11, and yet it remained a secret for more than 22 years.
It hasn’t even been 22 years since 9/11 yet.
The Allied invasion of Normandy was a conspiracy involving hundreds of thousands that was effectively kept secret until it was mobilized. Train people to follow orders and keep things on a need-to-know basis.
Keeping a military operation under wraps for a matter of months is not comparably to a conspiracy that is meant to be kept secret indefinitely.
But is it really an indefinite secret if people have been calling it out since literally the day it happened? We're discussing it right now after all. It's just a PR battle IMO, a propaganda game.
When normal crimes get called out, they get investigated and charged by authorities. When state crimes against democracy get called out, there are no authorities interested in starting earnest investigations because the authorities are the conspirators.
The people involved in MKULTRA were either on the agency payroll or got their funding from the feds. I was living in Spain when 9-11 happened and saw the second plane hit on a live Spanish language broadcast. I just don't think, especially in 2001, that the technology existed to create that elaborate of a hoax in addition to the number of people who aren't part of the agency who would need to be involved for it to be plausible to me.
Nobody serious is saying they used laser beams to take down the towers.
Ok, I'm totally willing to believe the US security state either ignored credible warnings or even pushed OBL in this specific direction and might have provided logistical support to the hijackers. It's in their interests to do so. The no planes, demolition charges stuff is a bridge I can't cross.
The fact that no planers even cross your mind when the government doing 9/11 is brought up is the product of a 20 year propaganda campaign.
I wasn't even aware of the existence of them prior to this post.
luckyyyy. that shit made it so I refused to look into shit deeper for a long time. When the space lasers come out it really distracts from the super sus shit that has a paper trail
It's like the Q stuff, there's a sick cabal of pedophiles who run the world...so they can steal kids' adrenal glands...and Trump is going to stop them. Now we can't talk about the actual sick cabal of pedophiles who run the world to amass wealth and escape the consequences of their actions that Trump is part of.
TrueAnon gave it airtime
That shit frustrated me so much. I stopped partway through their 9/11 series because they went from provable shit to suddenly throwing contradictory theories together with no delineation. If they went with an ep for each type of theory then I get it, but instead they just seamlessly going between very tangible stuff about the CIA ignoring or discouraging people looking into stuff involving the hijackers beforehand, and then go into no-planer stuff.
If you wanna cover all of it, fine. But they just got scrambled and threw it all at the audience. Like don't throw less provable or even contradictory stuff in while covering actually proven facts about financial dealings.
I will admit, I have problems with the series as a series
That's funny because I had the exact opposite reaction to their 9/11 series. It just goes to show how polarizing this stuff is. I'm glad they covered so many different topics and angles despite the blowback because I went into the series with a completely different viewpoint.
You might like this article series which is by two of the guests from the TrueAnon series but it only sticks to what is very provable and well-documented.
Oh I am glad they covered all they did, I just was mixed on the structure. But yeah glad we can discuss this stuff here. rather open minds than closed on this stuff
:meow-hug: You're nicer than some other comrades. :kitty-cri:
2 seconds of airtime really
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MKULTRA had a lot smaller public impact than 9/11 or the JFK assassination, though, and has had far less scrutiny.
It's not quite "lots of people = impossible to keep quiet." It's that the visibility is a function of how many people are involved, the size of the public impact, how much scrutiny is applied, how much the public cares about the event, and how much effort is applied at concealing/misdirecting/normalizing.