I've read the sentence about anarchists ten times and I have no idea WTF he is on about. Btw the nerd's name is Peter Hudis.

Edit: FFS Tankies and anarchists stop shitting on each other here. Take your struggle session elsewhere. You're both my comrades.

  • MC_Kublai [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    While I certainly agree with the principle of these spaces and am supportive of anarchist projects as I am socialist ones, I simply cannot see an anarchist movement fomenting revolution in the imperial core. The state would exterminate such a movement long before ever even considering accepting it in any way. The level of collective organization needed to oppose the state in this scenario would go far beyond what anarchists have ever executed, and even that may not be enough.

    I think anarchist spaces are important and can make an immediate difference for individuals benefiting from them, which is huge and actual praxis, but I simply cannot see it as a tool for revolution unless it was part of some sort of united left front.

    • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      They are facing the same kind of oppression as any kind of leftist movement. The FBI went and straight up murdered Fred Hampton. Everyone is vulnerable.

      • MC_Kublai [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Absolutely, that's why I think collaboration between leftists would be key in any sort of succesful western left movement, not that this guarantees safety from the state in any way. I think there is a lot of strategic potential in collaborating that we tend to overlook due to disagreements on theory of the state.

        • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah i don't know why this is not even examined, the only "modern" anarchist theorist i saw who engaged in good faith with marxism is Daniel Guerin.

          Though the antiglobalist movement in the early years was successful with having both communists, succdems and anarchists protesting with force against institusions like the WTO as well, that goes to show what happens when leftists are not going at each others throats at least for a few years.