This is kind of my understanding of it contemporarilly, but obviously not firsthand. That alot of it is people trying to do online "magic via Social Influence" which, correct; it is not too dissimilar from channers "meming things into reality."
Like I said in the original comment no receipts were brought up, but it seems to me that if you accept the premise that Q was some sort of op than it also seems like you need someone at least slightly more... sociology-politically literate? (or less stupid to be frank) than the Watkins involved, and as you said there is already the tangential connection. I think this is the case, but am not married to the idea it is Discordia specifically; that's just the allegation I used as an example.
That alot of it is people trying to do online “magic via Social Influence” which, correct; it is not too dissimilar from channers “meming things into reality.”
Yeah, I had an afterthought that the sort of ironic esotericism of it has parallels to the "hyperstition" or meme-magic ideas that originated in weird post-modern quasi-left ideology (I don't know how better to describe that because I have only a passing familiarity with it, mostly from people posting about Nick Land here) that then transformed into occult neo-reactionary tripe because it lacked any sort of actual grounding principles and was just a game for bourgeois edgelord failchildren.
But then that same ironic disbelief in causality also has parallels with shit like Lathe jokes or the Zone or calling dril a prophet, so it's not like it's inherently neo-reactionary despite them embracing it as part of their occult worldview.
This is kind of my understanding of it contemporarilly, but obviously not firsthand. That alot of it is people trying to do online "magic via Social Influence" which, correct; it is not too dissimilar from channers "meming things into reality."
Like I said in the original comment no receipts were brought up, but it seems to me that if you accept the premise that Q was some sort of op than it also seems like you need someone at least slightly more... sociology-politically literate? (or less stupid to be frank) than the Watkins involved, and as you said there is already the tangential connection. I think this is the case, but am not married to the idea it is Discordia specifically; that's just the allegation I used as an example.
Yeah, I had an afterthought that the sort of ironic esotericism of it has parallels to the "hyperstition" or meme-magic ideas that originated in weird post-modern quasi-left ideology (I don't know how better to describe that because I have only a passing familiarity with it, mostly from people posting about Nick Land here) that then transformed into occult neo-reactionary tripe because it lacked any sort of actual grounding principles and was just a game for bourgeois edgelord failchildren.
But then that same ironic disbelief in causality also has parallels with shit like Lathe jokes or the Zone or calling dril a prophet, so it's not like it's inherently neo-reactionary despite them embracing it as part of their occult worldview.