• space_comrade [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    You can call a shitty thing shitty without condemning their whole socialist project.

    It's not like we didn't know contradictions like this would happen, it still sucks when they do.

    • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      You can call a shitty thing shitty without condemning their whole socialist project.

      It’s not like we didn’t know contradictions like this would happen, it still sucks when they do.

      I don't know if we're looking at the same post.

      What you're saying is my response exactly.

      Looking at the rest of this post, everyone else seems to be on some Simpsons shit.

      • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        "China should crack down on stuff like this harder" = "China is bad and should fail" apparently.

          • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
            hexagon
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            2 years ago

            It is though. The story is about workers who are rioting because a private company fucked them over and instead of cracking down on the company that clearly exploits its workers they beat the workers down.

            • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I'm not saying it doesn't deserve criticism, I'm saying that the dominant tone is half "See Marxists? This is what happens when you do states 😏" from Anarchists and half "See Dengists? This is what happens when you do markets 😏" from the LeftCom/Trot/Maoist contingent.

              This is the wrong course of action from China, but it's undialectical to act like this is the end of the story, and it's insulting to act like it's the same as abuses from Capitalist countries.

              The most upvoted comment here before being removed was the quote about the People's Stick. And you know what? I bet if workers beaten by Chinese cops and workers beaten by American cops talked, the Chinese workers would probably be relieved to still have the ability to see, walk, and breathe. And of course, that's indulging the domestic comparison, where the comparison is Socialist Cop vs Capitalist Cop instead of the reality which reflects the proportionality of coercion, which is Socialist Cop vs Capitalist Death Squad.

      • space_comrade [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I dunno I'm not reading it like that. Yeah some people sure but most people are condemning Foxconn themselves with maybe being a bit disappointed in the central government for letting it go on like this.

        • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The most upvoted comment on the post before being removed was "Capitalism and Marxism-Leninism are the same."

          Oh wait no, it was "When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called "the People's Stick."

          Oh right I was correct the first time.

        • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          The central govt not gonna immediately involve unless the local govt can't handle it. This kind of protest is to get the central govt attention.