Some of the doomer* excuses people here and across the internet use to justify their way out of organizing are incredible. Some people would rather reassure themselves with the comfort of certain defeat than make themselves even slightly uncomfortable by imagining a better yet uncertain future.
*hate that word and subculture bc it was basically invented by them so we'd have to put up with their shit. Like nooo, I'm not just a lazy sadsack who worships my own sadness while gradually drawing other reasonably cynical people into it so we can all prematurely mourn our (absolutely certain, trust me bro) defeat, im just a #Doomer! :doomer: SHUT THE FUCK UP :agony:
yeah people totally still care about covid. While I appreciate a snarky dunk as much as the next chapo, there's a boiled frog effect now that is different than the conditions were when the economy was soaring, people were going about their lives, sticking their tongues in eachothers anuses, and suddenly Covid hit and eating ass was suddenly off the menu. I don't think we will see a recreation of the frustration caused by people suddenly afraid to lick someones poop hole.
The economy is likely going to either settle into a recession again and then slowly recover as most people get used to being slightly poorer, and frustration is deflected to the unhoused and immigrants, either the war will wind down, or people will forget about it blah blah. Maybe there will be another useless occupy movement that gets instantly co-opted but I expect like in the 2010's most people will be too busy trying to make rent. It's not like the BLM protests were majority leftists, it was liberal sanctioned acting out, and politically convenient for democrats since orangeman bad.
i didn't mean to dunk on you i just believe it's foolish to think that we're in a time of declining unrest of all things. the empire cannot project power like it once could and it seems the american bourgoisie have finally recognized the writing on the wall - western imperialism is beginning to collapse and they cannot keep the domestic populace under control with even a mild decrease in exploitation of the periphery. no matter what happens with the rise of the chinese and the effects of climate change coming due chaos is in our future and domestic revolts will only intensify until something gives one way or the other.
It’s not like the BLM protests were majority leftists
the US isn't going to be brought down by leftists; it's a pipe dream. it isn't going to last long enough for us to get our shit together while under the fed's thumb. it'll be dealt its deathblow by an overexploited proletariat regardless of their ideology however - and i imagine most of us are salivating at the thought of how easy it would be to radicalize the american populace in a world where there is no federal government.
neither the bolsheviks nor the chinese communists seized power during times of stability. they ruthlessly exploited periods of global upheaval that were out of their control. we will do the same.
Call me a doomer but 2020 might be the most resistance they'll see out of us again.
I'm also cynical about 2020 I feel like Covid was a factor. Like it agitated people and some of the BLM protest turnout was displaced frustration.
yeah we'll never see another 2020 since covid has been cured and nobody is frustrated about it anymore and the economy is amazing
Some of the doomer* excuses people here and across the internet use to justify their way out of organizing are incredible. Some people would rather reassure themselves with the comfort of certain defeat than make themselves even slightly uncomfortable by imagining a better yet uncertain future.
*hate that word and subculture bc it was basically invented by them so we'd have to put up with their shit. Like nooo, I'm not just a lazy sadsack who worships my own sadness while gradually drawing other reasonably cynical people into it so we can all prematurely mourn our (absolutely certain, trust me bro) defeat, im just a #Doomer! :doomer: SHUT THE FUCK UP :agony:
no u
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Reading Lenin really takes the doomer edge off for quite awhile
even just listening to communist music can do it
yeah people totally still care about covid. While I appreciate a snarky dunk as much as the next chapo, there's a boiled frog effect now that is different than the conditions were when the economy was soaring, people were going about their lives, sticking their tongues in eachothers anuses, and suddenly Covid hit and eating ass was suddenly off the menu. I don't think we will see a recreation of the frustration caused by people suddenly afraid to lick someones poop hole. The economy is likely going to either settle into a recession again and then slowly recover as most people get used to being slightly poorer, and frustration is deflected to the unhoused and immigrants, either the war will wind down, or people will forget about it blah blah. Maybe there will be another useless occupy movement that gets instantly co-opted but I expect like in the 2010's most people will be too busy trying to make rent. It's not like the BLM protests were majority leftists, it was liberal sanctioned acting out, and politically convenient for democrats since orangeman bad.
i didn't mean to dunk on you i just believe it's foolish to think that we're in a time of declining unrest of all things. the empire cannot project power like it once could and it seems the american bourgoisie have finally recognized the writing on the wall - western imperialism is beginning to collapse and they cannot keep the domestic populace under control with even a mild decrease in exploitation of the periphery. no matter what happens with the rise of the chinese and the effects of climate change coming due chaos is in our future and domestic revolts will only intensify until something gives one way or the other.
the US isn't going to be brought down by leftists; it's a pipe dream. it isn't going to last long enough for us to get our shit together while under the fed's thumb. it'll be dealt its deathblow by an overexploited proletariat regardless of their ideology however - and i imagine most of us are salivating at the thought of how easy it would be to radicalize the american populace in a world where there is no federal government.
neither the bolsheviks nor the chinese communists seized power during times of stability. they ruthlessly exploited periods of global upheaval that were out of their control. we will do the same.
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Who is "us" exactly? If you mean "the left" broadly, then you need to step away from the computer
Material conditions continue to deteriorate