• Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      i don't put any of this past a theocratic clerical regime that came to power after purging the communists who did all the heavy lifting in the revolution against the shah, but I will also say it is always worth investigating these maps, who made them, whether the information is accurate, what the possible motivations and conflicts of interest are in presenting the information this way, and so on. The exaggeration of how good Israel is about LGBT rights, which @ButtBidet pointed out in his post in this thread, is suspect, to say the least.

      • newerAccountWhoDis [they/them]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        it is always worth investigating these maps

        thats why my lazy ass posted it to chapo in the first place

    • chairmantau [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      This map is misleading, while the Middle East isn’t exactly the bastion of LGBT rights the situation is far from what the Islamophobic western media would tell you. Iran has better trans rights than the United States in some areas. Trans women are financially supported by the public healthcare system and have the protection from the government, trans women are seen as actual women in Iran and while the cis homosexuals may face severe discrimination the trans girls are doing all right which is honestly a nice reversal from the norm in western countries.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It's the inherent problem behind rolling all LGBT rights into a simple color coded map. Like imagine making a map of the US for "women's rights" and trying to color code states where abortion is legal/available if you travel/illegal/has criminal penalties. Then try to add colors for availability of childcare (free/subsidized/paid), maternity leave (how many weeks/upaid/paid/none), etc etc. It'd be an absolute shitshow of unreadable colors or terribly misleading depending on criteria chosen.

        • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          It’s the inherent problem behind rolling all LGBT rights into a simple color coded map.

          Absolutely. What does it mean if being gay is illegal? Does that mean what goes on behind closed doors is off-limits or does that mean secret police are actively hunting people on dating apps? That's a massive difference and it is relevant to that part of the world, as the latter is a thing in places like Qatar, but a lot of the other places are at least a bit more laid back about this even though they have the same color on the map.

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        2 years ago

        the trans girls are doing all right which is honestly a nice reversal from the norm in western countries.

        This is probably taking it a little far. Many trans people are not straight and may not fit neatly into a strict, patriarchal, binary gender role, and there's also discrimination/violence outside the law to consider. It's an interesting little quirk that Iran has a provision to allow trans people to exist under certain stipulations, but I don't think it's accurate to say that trans women are doing alright compared to Western countries. Women in general aren't really doing alright in Iran.