I may be spouuting a heresy so please correct me if i am wrong. I aint no christian anyway.
It is my understanding that we all have escence and form. My ecence is matter aranged in atoms molecules cells organs and then a person.
God is not made of matter it is made of divine substance wich in order to work has to have certain properties. Because of this when you make a person of it you can use the same substance to make another one. So they are consubstantial.
Close. The issue here is that Jesus is fully Human and Fully divine, in a hypostatic union (or a union of the two into one nature in practice, if you're Miaphysite which IIRC isn't considered heretical anymore)
So something being outwardly "matter" or not has no impact on its divine nature. See also Communion in Catholic/Orthodox (and some interpretations of Anglican doctrine) where the host is fully transformed into the divine but maintains its outward character.
Sorry for the late repply. Bussy holiday season. But dosent comunion involve transubstantiation. Wich esentialy changes the substance from regular mater to god stuff? The same can be saud for christ havig a human form and be substantially god.
But now that i think about it this would mean a shape is being predicated on god. Wich shouldnt be posible.
It does, but in order to dodge the "but it look like a biscuit, checkmate papists!" Argument there was some clarification on how that happens exactly.
Or to use the catechism
What is the meaning of transubstantiation? Transubstantiation means the change of the whole substance of bread into the substance of the Body of Christ and of the whole substance of wine into the substance of his Blood. This change is brought about in the eucharistic prayer through the efficacy of the word of Christ and by the action of the Holy Spirit. However, the outward characteristics of bread and wine, that is the “eucharistic species”, remain unaltered.
Is this copium? A bit, but there's also a few different schools of thought on this even within doctrine so they keep the mechanism a bit vague.
I may be spouuting a heresy so please correct me if i am wrong. I aint no christian anyway.
It is my understanding that we all have escence and form. My ecence is matter aranged in atoms molecules cells organs and then a person.
God is not made of matter it is made of divine substance wich in order to work has to have certain properties. Because of this when you make a person of it you can use the same substance to make another one. So they are consubstantial.
Close. The issue here is that Jesus is fully Human and Fully divine, in a hypostatic union (or a union of the two into one nature in practice, if you're Miaphysite which IIRC isn't considered heretical anymore)
So something being outwardly "matter" or not has no impact on its divine nature. See also Communion in Catholic/Orthodox (and some interpretations of Anglican doctrine) where the host is fully transformed into the divine but maintains its outward character.
Sorry for the late repply. Bussy holiday season. But dosent comunion involve transubstantiation. Wich esentialy changes the substance from regular mater to god stuff? The same can be saud for christ havig a human form and be substantially god.
But now that i think about it this would mean a shape is being predicated on god. Wich shouldnt be posible.
It does, but in order to dodge the "but it look like a biscuit, checkmate papists!" Argument there was some clarification on how that happens exactly.
Or to use the catechism
Is this copium? A bit, but there's also a few different schools of thought on this even within doctrine so they keep the mechanism a bit vague.