• axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    A subsidiary is when a ghoul discovers something that isn't yet commercialized

    Do you know how many molecules of air people are breathing? And yet there's a compressed air market? We're sitting on an invisible quadrillion dollar breathing subsidiary

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      A subsidiary is when a ghoul discovers something that isn’t yet commercialized

      This is literally a subsidy though. Whenver else you use land for personal or business reasons and nobody else can, you gotta cough up the beaucoup bucks, especially in place like NYC. Just not if it's for parking your car.

      Sam here is pretty good. He's not trying to grift your average joe shmoe out of more money for parking, he's about making city less car dependent.

        • 7bicycles [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I get it, removed from context. But if you consider only 22% of NYC Households own a car, all the free parking and car infrastructure is genuinely mostly from people who commute in.

          • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            I know a person who used to commute to Manhattan from somewhere in New Jersey. It was something like a 30 drive on a good day, but any type of public transportation would take over 3 hours.

            • 7bicycles [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, especially in NYC there's a real problem with being priced out of the city and being forced to car commute by car. But there's also still the problem with suburban flight and those people thinking the city should be designed for them first and foremost, which it basically is.

              It's a complex issue to tackle, but I still think Sam here makes a correct point. 88% of New Yorkians basically subsidize all kinds of car infrastructure for not only little personal gain (like commercial vehicles) but personal detriment.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      But the labor of compressing such air is where value trully relies on

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    If he did one for highways it would come out even larger lmao. If you include subsidies on oil and gas - the whole auto industry is and has always been propped up by government subsidies, which is probably why other countries that don't do what we do have much denser cities and fewer cars.

  • 7bicycles [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It's correct actually. I mean market prices for land or space is obviously a bad and dumb idea, don't get me wrong, but it is the system in place in NYC....except for cars.

  • Wertheimer [any]
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    2 years ago

    Here's a parking space for sale in Hoboken, NJ, for the low low price of $25,000.

    https://www.corcoran.com/listing/for-sale/415-newark-st-parking-space-hoboken-nj-07030/69652894/regionId/130

  • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Exactly! People will be against any kind of welfare but think that reserving land for parking has absolutely no cost

    Edit: just read that in West Hollywood a street is having a lane of car traffic and street parking replaced with wider sidewalks and a PROTECTED bike lane. I love to see it

  • PROMIS_ring [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    in my city the cost per month for a parking space permit is literally like 1% of the monthly rental cost for a 1 bedroom apartment

    They won't let you live in a parking space though

  • Mallow [any,comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    This is an interesting perspective, I hadn't thought of it this way before. And somehow you can still never get one of the free parking spaces. lol I much prefer the trains for getting around.

    I 'm not sure what this translates to practically though. If the sides of the road weren't being used as parking and we could magically make all the buildings bigger to cover where the spaces used to be I feel like that wouldn't change much. I would think the best quality of life change would be removing a lot of the parking and making the streets more pedestrian friendly. The outdoor covid seating structures for restaurants are kinda a first idea of what someone might do but I could see people getting more creative with the street space if it was turned person friendly instead of car centered. If you go to the bougie "dumbo" area in Brooklyn they do have maybe 1 or 2 streets like that and it's somewhat cute (but it's flaws would take a whole other post).

    But then I get lost trying to tie it back to land price. The majority of people have to rent still whether the parking spaces are there or not. Rent prices change for apartments of the same size all the time just because the landlord wants more money, or when the neighborhood gets gentrified, etc. so it doesn't seem based on land price itself or at least not how it ties in to scarcity.... Maybe I'm just lacking context because this is only one tweet.