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December 6th's update is here on the site and here in the comments.

December 7th's update is here on the site and here in the comments.

December 9th's update is here on the site and here in the comments.

December 10th's update is here on the site and here in the comments.

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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. I recommend their map more than the channel at this point, as an increasing subscriber count has greatly diminished their quality.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources. Beware of chuddery.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are fairly brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. The Duran, of which he co-hosts, is where the chuddery really begins to spill out.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ Now rebranded as Battlefield Insights, they do infrequent posts on the conflict.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of the really big pro-Russian (except when they're being pessismistic, which is often) telegram channels focussing on the war. Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Any Western media outlet that is even vaguely liberal (and quite a few conservative ones too).

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.

  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    “You thought you were close? Get fucked bitch. Not only are you not going to get anything you want like M4A or Free College, we’re gonna manufacture a situation where liberals look at you like you’re insane, and rehabilitate literal fascists whose history goes back 80 years to being Holocaust Collaborators and gaslight you and there’s nothing you can do about it”.

    Sure there is contempt and hate from the ruling class, even historically this was often the case so this isn't new. I am sure some of them always laugh at America itself, how 300m people think that shit is a democracy.

    But I wouldn't go beyond that, the second part I think you are giving them way too much credit. These people believe their own shit, really not just believe in it they rejoice it in it, the hate and contempt is the only thing that motivates these fucks, after you are rich enough nothing else matters but human social relations, i.e your class.

    People keep theorizing since the beginning of the war that this whole thing was a plan to take down the EU and while yes this is definitely happening, I also always argued that these people really believed Russia was a gas station with an army the same level as Iraq or worse and even honorary whites could defeat them if you gave them the bare minimum, you can almost hear them saying "here have this shitty Javelin missile and a few magazines, that is all you'll need. Fucking tanks, artillery, air? What are you thinking lol this isn't WW2 trust me darling."

    They've managed to create a world where the ruling class and most of the people close to them are in emperor's new clothes mode on one side while the other side really believe their own bullshit to a fanatical degree.

    The epitome of this was the Ukrainian missile landing in Poland and the article quoting the AP reporter guys literaly saying: "I can’t imagine a U.S. intelligence official would be wrong on this".

    • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      One look at the dumb as fuck choices people with too much money and power like Musk and Trump make and you can see that they're obviously stumbling around blindly. The only thing keeping them safe is ther money, and that shit won't last forever as their dumbasses crash the economy and anger workers.