I was gonna say “you don’t have to hand it to em” but the azov flag sent me lmao
Have to hand it to them on being principled isolationists too, which is closer to anti-imperialism than Libs have ever managed
That's probably changing, too. Apparently the national party got taken over by the Trump-adjacent Mises Caucus. As soon as a Republican is in power they'll explain why this war is fine.
All I know is I see the libertarian bow tie dorks having a better voting record on foreign wars and imperialism than Sanders or any Democrat and it’s honestly so fucking pathetic. America is truly a cursed and hopeless land
Th contrast is interesting but looking from outside my impression is that american libertarians can afford to be principled on being anti war or in favor of drug liberalization because the coalition they are a part of is willing to give them everything else they want. A libertarian in congress voting against the war agenda is irrelevant, both to wether wars actually happen and to their own agenda. They don't need to sacrifice anything to get republicans to vote against worker's rights or anything else in the libertarian playbook. It's a stark contrast with the democratic party, where you have to play ball to get denied the bare minimum of social policy.
Right, it’s just an advanced form of the rotating villain tactic. Rotating hero. Everyone gets a turn to be good and principled on things that don’t matter or are overwhelmingly decided already
So wonderfully said. Norm is someone who can so perfectly and precisely explain what is wrong.
Speaking of does anyone have a link to that thread cataloging Nazi symbols on UA guys?
Is that the fucking black sun in the azov flag? Behind the not-swastika?
The not-swastika is a wolfsangel, which in turn was also used by the Nazi SS a bunch
So cool that America & Europe are giving them tons of unchecked weapons and billions of dollars, certainly nothing bad will come of it?
rambling
Btw, I wonder how the west will pin it on Russia/China when Ukrainian Nazis commit g****ide using American equipment. Now that I think of it, Russia/China are going to attack the them, and the west will most certainly side with the Nazis.
That's what's gonna happen, isn't it? Something I think about sometimes: Germany & Italy lost, but Nazism/Fascism as an ideology actually won WWII, in a way, didn't it? So far, at least.
The west backing Nazis and the Russians attacking and killing them is exactly what has been happening since 2014 in Ukraine (before that really, but 2014 is when the Nazis seized power in an unlawful coup)
The US backed the fucking tsarist white army while they were running around doing pogroms. You think anything has changed?
Several nations in Africa have been complaining that terrorists have been buying American weapons from the Ukrainians on the black market, so the blowback has already begun.
yeah. that's always been part of their shit. people just don't notice it because it's white and blends in with the yellow
kanye is a christian chauvinist and putin pretends to be super orthodox christian so that doesn't surprise me.
Haven’t seen anything that shows this. Just that he was planning a business trip in January but canceled it. Is this another lib brainworm of “guy who goes to Russia is a Putler lover” or is there some statement I’m missing?
He said so during the Alex Jones interview. It's not a "russiagate" thing. Some of the far-right is pro-Putin. Nick Fuentes is pro-Putin. Nick Fuentes said during Kanye interview that he's pro-Putin because Putin is Conservative and Christian, Kanye replied that he agrees with Nick about Putin.
Ah, there’s no way I’m watching that whole shitfest. I’d be interested in hearing this section though to see if it was a casual offhand thing about Putin being culturally based or if they actually support the Russian SMO
The timestamp on the interview is 01:49:00 on the full video. Youtube and social media is taking down all clips from the interview. You can find the full video on Alex Jones's website.
transcript cw/ alex jones, nick fuentes, kanye west
Alex: What else is on your radar? What do you think about the Ukraine war? What do you think about the devaluation of the dollar? What do you think about FTX and bitcoin? There's so many topics.
Kanye: Nick?
Nick: Well uh, yeah. In terms of Ukraine and Russia, I haven't seen much of that in the news. I am, of course, very pro-Putin. I am very pro-Russia. Um.
Kanye: I am also.
Nick: Let's go! Um. You know. You see this is just an extension of the United States neocon establishment new world order type stuff.
Kanye: What does Putin say about America's value system?
Nick: So he said in a speech when he annexed those 2 breakaway provinces and he annexed the Donbas. He said in his speech that we have totally abandoned traditional values and traditional faith -- and that we've embraced full-on Satanism and he's totally right.
Alex: It's true. America is embracing Satanism.
Kanye: Jesus is alive....
<Kanye continues to go on a long Christianity rant, unrelated to Putin or Russia>
lol sounds like it’s Fuentes who has the ideological positions here and Kanye is just nodding along. Funny to say he doesn’t hear much about Russia-Ukraine in the news, shows how different rightoid news is than lib news. Libs can’t shut the fuck up about it for 10 months straight.
The European right has always been quite favourable to Putin, especially after Russia started really clamping down on LGBTQ-rights, and also for his conduct during the Second Chechen War, since Euro-racism was redirected to middle easterners and muslims in general in the lead up to the Iraq War. Of course, now that it's become anathema to say anything positive about Putin, they know that they need to shut the fuck up. It's also why the only European leader that ever suggests lifting the sanctions that are currently fucking over the entire continent is Victor Orban, who is probably the most right wing guy on the continent. Italy's prime minister is too beholden to the NatSec state and I don't think she ever really gets to dictate her own foreign policy compared to what Hungary is doing.
They're just crying since they don't get any federal money. A big thing when that Gary guy was running in 2016 was encouraging people to vote for him so they'd hit the 5% or whatever minimum that would get the libertarian party federal funding for the 2020 election. They fuckin love Nazis. You don't, under any circumstances, gotta hand it to them
gary "what's aleppo?" "i think a driver licensing system is reasonable" johnson
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i wanted toaster guy to take it.
Toaster guy was libertarianism incarnate he should have lol
