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  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Lula wasn't just a suc dem, the 3 1/2 Lula/Dilma terms saw Brazil remain as an US vassal rather than any sort of geopolitical ally of AES countries worldwide, despite China becoming Brazil's biggest trading partner during the period, nothing fundamentally changed. Brazilian society is pretty sinophobic for no reason other than US cultural influence.

    Maybe they can't accept the reality that China/DPRK are far closer to Russia than whatever they mean by South American leftists.

    And calling Russia a "dictatorship" is about the same energy as calling AES countries a dictatorship. Right away it is so stereotypical as to not even be worth engaging with such people.

    • notthenameiwant [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Lula was able to help alleviate the poverty of millions and provided running water for the first time to at least 5 million. Educate yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuDWw5l-yoU .

    • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The worker's party tenure saw unprecedented facts in brazilian foreign policy with investments in Cuba and lusophone Africa, an attempt to bring Venezuela into Mercosur, the formation of BRICS + the new development bank, and so on. It was arguably the first time Brazil spoke of leadership with a clearer vision turned towards south america in particular rather than its historical position of using the US as a counterbalance to it's spanish speaking neighbors. The wikileaks cables showed how the CIA complained that Brazil refused to toe the line, built it's own sphere of influence in Uruguay and Paraguay, and went so far as refusing to buy american arms in favor of tech transfers from european countries. The entire discourse of south-south cooperation already breaks with notions of Brazil being an automatic US vassal state. Just look at Bolsonaro's Brazil today. The man would have loved to embark on the anti China bandwagon with something more than words but he knows that Brazil-China trade is what fuels his coalition in the first place and that blockading China would see Bolsonaro executed in a week.

      Sure, Brazil walks the fine line between the west and the rest but it does so because it is in its interests to do so. People often misunderstand multipolarity as though its 'everyone is default anti US now' or as though every single point of cooperation heralds the formation of a new power bloc. No, it means people will talk to each other according to circumstance. Brazil's trade with China is low value commodities. Brazil's trade with the US is high end industrial goods for areas like aviation. Going full in on China would be self defeating at this point.

      As for 'Brazil's society is anti china for no real reason' - bruv, nothing short of the utter destruction of the US empire will deliver us from the aftermath jakarta method. And perhaps not even then.

    • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      All nations are dictatorships. Dictatorships of the proletariat or the bourgeoisie. Saudi Arabia and a couple gulf states are the one exception, they are aristocratic dictatorships that never had a bourgeois revolution due to their access to unlimited energy and money.

      Though I’m sure that’s not what this vaushite meant