Credit to @ThomasMuentzner for the title idea. No, the goddamn city still hasn't been taken, though excitingly, the Russians have moved like three residential blocks up!

December 12th's update is here on the site and here in the comments.

December 13th's update is here on the site and here in the comments.

December 14th's update is here on the site and here in the comments.

December 16th's update is here on the site and here in the comments.

I feel pretty ill today so I'm taking the weekend off. Might post some articles here and there.

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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. I recommend their map more than the channel at this point, as an increasing subscriber count has greatly diminished their quality.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources. Beware of chuddery.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are fairly brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. The Duran, of which he co-hosts, is where the chuddery really begins to spill out.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ Now rebranded as Battlefield Insights, they do infrequent posts on the conflict.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of the really big pro-Russian (except when they're being pessismistic, which is often) telegram channels focussing on the war. Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Any Western media outlet that is even vaguely liberal (and quite a few conservative ones too).

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


  • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I suspect this war is going to go the way of the Syrian Civil War (ie last like 10 years and everyone will stop paying attention as their "side" slowly gets choked out of existence)

    I don't think we'll see a single moment of great collapse or victory. People will just look around in a decade and Russia will have de facto control of 80% of Ukraine

      • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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        edit-2
        2 years ago

        Yeah true, I guess it would only go that long slow route if US stays out and Russia wins very slowly through attrition. The US is likely going to put direct forces in soon if it's going as bad as some seem to think.

        I've just heard from both camps how this would be over so quickly several times, now I'm skeptical. Evidence seems to suggest this will be a long slow attrition war. Neither side is able to negotiate a ceasefire or end, trust has completely broken down and both sides' minimum demands has no overlap with the others'. Ukraine wants Donbas and Crimea back, which are absolute 0% chance non-starters for the Russians.

        • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Highly doubt it, Surovikin probably gonna grind Ukraine down as much as possible in Bakhmut, and for the US to put force. Well, they already in there as "volunteer", I wonder how many Poles has died until now, probably near 2K?