• Teapot [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      No, it makes more sense to end the suffering. Having Biden veto it does not do that. Either get a veto proof proposal, or end it through negotiation. Force him to veto if neither pans out

      • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        biden has shown no real signs of ending it though. it would be better for organizers to force him to say that in a clear way, that forces it to get covered in the news.

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Would it force news coverage? If this actually came to a vote, would we suddenly see a few Dems back off?

          There isn't much leverage to work here.

          • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            I just don't see how it could possibly be better for Bernie to get this loose promise than passing an actual resolution to end US military support in a genocide.

            • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Forcing a veto maybe has a 2% chance of snowballing into something that moves the needle, and there's no guarantee of that much. Maybe the logic is this will keep the issue alive, where a veto would basically close it for the foreseeable future. Maybe the idea is that this has a 2.5% chance of snowballing into something meaningful. I have a hard time faulting the guy for picking one lottery ticket instead of another.

              • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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                2 years ago

                I guess that's fair, but it seems like they'd rather have had the vote from the recent citations needed news brief. I think it's almost certain that Biden uses the lull to not change anything and let it simmer for a bit longer down the road.

                • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  I can see a good argument for pushing the vote, too, but both options are long shots at the end of the day. If there's no clearly better path, what is there to criticize?

                • Teapot [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  If that's the case, he'll bring the vote in the "near future", with a republican house that would love to stick it to Biden