I can’t understand it. Look at what Covid is doing right now. It’s fucking awful. Why couldn’t they just stay with Zero-COVID till everyone got vaccinated? Why haven’t they vaccinated everyone by now? It’s so frustrating. Who the fuck cares if someone assholes protested with blank paper? Just…why?

    • space_comrade [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      So on what basis should countries be hyperfocused on Covid then? There are plenty of things that kill more people than Covid.

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        There are plenty of things that kill more people than Covid

        There are not. And the fact that you think there are shows how you misunderstand the seriousness of this virus. There are two things that cause more deaths than Covid, heart disease and cancer. And we spend a lot of time and money trying to bring those numbers down, and their solutions are much much more difficult than covid.

        The next cause after covid is car accidents, and as we already agreed we have put restrictions in place that are of similar severity as China’s lockdowns to bring those numbers down.

        • space_comrade [he/him]
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          The solution for most of those heart disease deaths is leading a healthier lifestyle yet I don't see people here calling for a decades long mandatory enforced diet and fitness campaign.

          Also I really doubt Covid is gonna remain one of the leading causes of death for years, deaths are down this year.

          • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Also I really doubt Covid is gonna remain one of the leading causes of death for years.

            Why not? Every time you catch it it weakens your immune system. There’s nothing to say a disease can’t be a leading cause of death every year for centuries. See: Smallpox.

            • space_comrade [he/him]
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              Because the facts are that we're getting less deaths this year worldwide, so unless you have a theory that there's a whole bunch of unaccounted for Covid deaths I'll just take that at face value.

              • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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                Yeah it’s not gonna stay AS high as it was, because the most vulnerable people already died from it. But the flu is cause of death #9, and there’s no reason at all to believe covid deaths will ever be as low as the flu.

                And to be clear, I think the amount of flu deaths we allow to happen is also unacceptable. We should have random screening tests for flu during flu season, masks in crowded areas, and mandatory flu vaccines. A large portion of flu deaths could be prevented if we took relatively small steps as a society.

                • space_comrade [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  And to be clear, I think the amount of flu deaths we allow to happen is also unacceptable. We should have random screening tests for flu during flu season, masks in crowded areas, and mandatory flu vaccines. A large portion of flu deaths could be prevented if we took relatively small steps as a society.

                  Sure, that sounds reasonable. What's not reasonable is IMO lockdowns for diseases that we have no chance of eradicating anymore. Everything else should be utilized.

                  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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                    2 years ago

                    I think it depends on how wide the lockdown and how high the spread. I would absolutely want a lockdown of my whole city if 20% of my city currently actively had the flu. If the coworker who sits next to me tests positive for flu, I should be home for a few days to make sure I don’t have it. And importantly, I should not have a choice in that. Those rules go more severely for covid.