A talk about the tendency for old people to be closed-minded towards new music, sometimes in ways that are racist.
skip to 0:46 to avoid the product promotion.
A talk about the tendency for old people to be closed-minded towards new music, sometimes in ways that are racist.
skip to 0:46 to avoid the product promotion.
Skip to 0:37 for his first appearance
(edited with original video)
You posted this same video on another Fantano thread I made months ago. In an interview, Anthony explained that his appearance in this video was a mix up. Fantano had said that he thought the video would be making fun of fragile white men, so he dressed up in a costume and pretended to be a fragile white man. The creator of the video took the footage and made it look like he was serious. Fantano says that he does not support that video and that he did not know that the other people would be in the video. Fantano says that if he could go back in time he would choose to not appear in that video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3QXcOeU18Y
Fantano is not perfect. He has made some bad decisions and has had some bad takes. The important thing is that he recognizes his mistakes and seeks to correct them. Similarly the video that I posted is about trying to be open minded and recognizing your own biases.
I do remember everything that happend, thatistheplan was a vlog channel for Fantano and the reactionary stuff started firmly with Fantano butting into the Sarkeesian conversation with an entry to theneedledrop written blog where he claimed that, while he was no gamer, gamers were right to chide Sarkeesian since she didn't have experience with games. From there the thatistheplan channel just kinda sinked into a weird hole where he took aim at occupy protesters and socialists with a #ResistCapitalism character, started cozying up with the rational youtubers and everything eventually culminated with him featuring Sam Hyde on the main needledrop channel, Sam Hyde was a well-known fascist by then and his upcoming Adult Swim show was riling people the hell up. If it was a joke, it wasn't obvious because he even started getting video responses addressing his anti-communist stuff.
At the end, I assumed he SLAPPed the fader since his claim that the entire channel was irony was hard to contend against in court and history got rewritten. There was indeed a lot of stuff in thatistheplan that was obviously not made in earnest. The Hopsin Rules stuff is Fantano scoffing at Hopsin, but he pretty much was in-line with what most of /mu/ felt like at the time. If you knew you knew.
I mean at the end of the day it doesn't matter, it has no bearing on his reviews, but it does weird me out that Fantano wished to fix the record by arguing that it was a "mixup" or whatever, a significant departure from first claiming that the amazing atheist wasn't "alt-right". Why not just argue that he was a bit of an anti-feminist and has since changed his outlook?
I honestly think you're misrepresenting what he says in that video you posted, and even if he did say what you're saying, the idea that watching his bits in the anti-SJW video are supposed to be lampooning white men and not "SJWs" seems like kind of a ridiculous claim.
What part of anything he says is targeting white men? The things he says aren't ridiculous hyperbolic claims to make the speaker seem ridiculous, they're middle-of-the-road questions designed to own "SJWs"
He says in the interview that he thought the video was going to be "tongue in cheek" and "making fun of people like Atheismisunstoppable". He says "I took the opportunity to extend on a meme troll character that I was developing for my other channel at the time." He says that he put on a costume and pretended to be the worst person that he could imagine.
This is what I mean about misrepresenting what he says - you can't just put quotes around something no where in the video does he say he thinks the video will be making fun of people like athiesmisunstoppable.
Anyways, the broader point stands: if we take him at your most generous interpretation of his word and then watch the original video, can you point to a single thing he says or does that punches up instead of down?
Hmm, yeah I'm not really sure what's going on there. I would certainly like to see Fantano's video unedited with a little more context behind it. It doesn't really seem in line with anything I've heard him say in the past, though he often says things he doesn't agree with a heavy amount of sarcasm. Kind of feels like what's happening here, but I can't speak for him.
I will say that I've seen him review music that has pro-social justice themes, some from the perspective of women, where he expresses support for those movements whether or not he likes the music itself. For example, in the video featured in this post he's wearing a Lingua Ignota shirt. He gave her album Sinner Get Ready, which, among other things, is about her confronting trauma from past abuse, a 10/10.
This wasn't edited out of context, he submitted these clips for the compilation
From what others are saying, there's still important context missing. For example, I watched the video another user posted where he addresses the situation, which leads me to believe he didn't understand the context in which the clips would be used. Though I think these clips are still edited down from a larger video.