https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0013935122013068
Many of you may recall a study from over two years ago which found traces of covid RNA in sewage water in Lombardy, Italy.
This is not that study. This is a study released this month which confirms those earlier findings. A new strain which predates the Wuhan alpha strain was sequenced, labeled proCoV2.
Abstract
As a reference laboratory for measles and rubella surveillance in Lombardy, we evaluated the association between SARS-CoV-2 infection and measles-like syndromes, providing preliminary evidence for undetected early circulation of SARS-CoV-2. Overall, 435 samples from 156 cases were investigated.
RNA from oropharyngeal swabs (N = 148) and urine (N = 141) was screened with four hemi-nested PCRs and molecular evidence for SARS-CoV-2 infection was found in 13 subjects. Two of the positive patients were from the pandemic period (2/12, 16.7%, March 2020–March 2021) and 11 were from the pre-pandemic period (11/44, 25%, August 2019–February 2020).
Sera (N = 146) were tested for anti-SARS-CoV-2 IgG, IgM, and IgA antibodies. Five of the RNA-positive individuals also had detectable anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies. No strong evidence of infection was found in samples collected between August 2018 and July 2019 from 100 patients. The earliest sample with evidence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA was from September 12, 2019, and the positive patient was also positive for anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies (IgG and IgM).
Mutations typical of B.1 strains previously reported to have emerged in January 2020 (C3037T, C14408T, and A23403G), were identified in samples collected as early as October 2019 in Lombardy. One of these mutations (C14408T) was also identified among sequences downloaded from public databases that were obtained by others from samples collected in Brazil in November 2019.
We conclude that a SARS-CoV-2 progenitor capable of producing a measles-like syndrome may have emerged in late June-late July 2019 and that viruses with mutations characterizing B.1 strain may have been spreading globally before the first Wuhan outbreak.
Our findings should be complemented by high-throughput sequencing to obtain additional sequence information. We highlight the importance of retrospective surveillance studies in understanding the early dynamics of COVID-19 spread and we encourage other groups to perform retrospective investigations to seek confirmatory proofs of early SARS-CoV-2 circulation.
So instead of the Chinese, we need to be angry at the Italians?
Maybe. I still think it came from the US, but the CDC refuses to test any samples from 2019 for covid because "there is no need". :sus-deep:
Source? I totally believe you I just want to be able to link it to other people and say “The US released covid”
If we could view old hexbear comments I could find it... >_<
What I'm specifically referring to is a tweet by a woman who had sent a letter to the CDC asking if they had tested any samples from EVALI patients for covid and she got a letter in reply stating that there was no need to test for the virus because they already know it wasn't here. Sounds like circular logic to me.
Oh yes I remember that tweet, shit.
If you could try to do some googling i would like to see this. Couldn't find anything at a quick Google, but i never saw jt
I’ll let you pick up where I left off searching, I’m pretty sure it’s connected to this thread and this person somehow but I haven’t found it. https://twitter.com/Rossana38510044/status/1529050855005114368?s=20&t=lbM63pKSkLpZv3fyPm59MQ
The conspiracy-brained part of me suspects that the CDC at some level knows that covid came from Fort Detrick and that's why they're refusing to test those samples.
Damn, got anything with more info on that?
Why do you think they deliberately fumbled the approval of tests for months? They knew it was already widespread and needed plausible deniability.
As if we needed a reason to be angry at Italians :anti-italian-action:
In my day, we had a tool for that, it was called racism.
Honestly, I don't love the anti Italian racism bit. It's like a Cumtown stay-behind joke. Not really funny, not even insightful, just enough post-irony to make isolating specific groups (Italians) seem ok, when it's like, not ok to be racist.
Fredo Flu
Good thing the word 'influenza' is already Italian. Somebody tried to warn us.