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  • Shoegazer [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I will bet you 100 logan bucks that 95% of the bazingas who get scammed and then complain also espouse the "socialism won't work because are humans are inherently greedy" line

    • kristina [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      i usually just say 'nah, .1% of the human population are inherently greedy, the rest are just brainwashed'

        • kristina [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          2 day old account :suswcc:

          is it greed or is it wanting to live a life not in stress? greed is wanting unlimited wealth, private jets, etc. if me wanting to live a life without stress with a garden on my porch is greed i guess im the greediest motherfucker alive, which is an absurd definition

          • Kill7Bil_BrainDemons [any]
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            2 years ago

            Yea I am conflating greed with self-interest needlessly, you could call greed self-interest which steps on or neglects others, or is mindlessly focused on enjoying yourself (sometimes to the point it goes against your self-interest in the long run)

            • kristina [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              pretty pedantic. the system itself steps on everyone. by your definition, that means everyone is inherently greedy or 'self interested' as a result of the system despite wanting the same general ungreedy and unselfish desire of simple lives without stress. its a misanthropic view of the world. people can be misled by the greedy, of course, its what greedy people are good at.

              • Kill7Bil_BrainDemons [any]
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                2 years ago

                No if you read what I said, it's that greed is the point self-interest crosses over into being bad. Self-interest is just wanting a good life for yourself. You guys are all online as shit goddamn you're not being raided by libertarians. It's 2022.

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  You guys are all online as shit

                  And you're a failed wrecker that is, hopefully, going to at least be entertaining in your inevitable meltdown before your banning.

                  • Spike [none/use name]
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                    2 years ago

                    This is the meltdown lmao. They're going hard about being cool than everyone else here. Self esteem got hurt that quickly

                • kristina [she/her]
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                  2 years ago

                  i aint online im just a monkey shitting on a keyboard im not even looking at a screen or anything, this is all autonomous

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          This is empty false equivalency bullshit with the appeal to nature fallacy baked right in and toasted to a pop-nihilistic crisp. :sus-soviet:

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Stop making terrible arguments that appeal to woo to accuse everyone of being just like billionaires... or just like you.

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I mean people live in a world where not being greedy means that they might die of starvation along with their family

        them acting greedy when under threat for not acting greedy is not indicative of how people would act while not being threatened

        capitalism saying people are like this unprompted is like a cop saying people love getting out of their car and presenting their licenses

        • kristina [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          im not convinced 'fighting to survive in a cruel world' is the definition of greed tbqh

          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            it's not perfectly self sacrificing and selfless but we are Communists not saints.

            we are in fact asking for the world we just also want to share it

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I refuse to humor some false equivalency between billionaires and people that just want to survive with less suffering.

              • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                I don't consider greed to be an insult when people accuse unions of being greedy I say yeah they want more why don't you

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  "Fuck you, pay me" is not the same thing as billionaires burning the planet down to watch the high score rise.

                  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    no billionaires are destructive and awful obviously their greed is out of control but also I don't know any billionaires I can't really conceptualise of them as anything more than people on tv

                    I can understand the suffering that capitalism causes because I can see it. The rich people live out of town

                    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                      2 years ago

                      I can’t really conceptualise of them as anything more than people on tv

                      Without doxxing myself, I can say that I have been in the same room as billionaires during at least one social function. What I saw was what I got: they are paper-thin and skin-crawlingly insulated from the rest of us. We're toys to them.

                      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                        2 years ago

                        that's more or less what i expected

                        I still hate bookies and landlords more but because I see their effects more directly

                        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                          2 years ago

                          The creepiest part was it was during a charity function. Someone bragging about charity couldn't hide their contempt for poor people. It was a flex, and nothing more.

                          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                            2 years ago

                            rich people engage in charity traditionally as a means of exercising control and getting a power thrill

                            they're there to hear poor people beg for their life and occasionally helping is the cost of the show

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Lots of bazingas buy in and call it "greater idiot theory" then are surprised when they are the greater one.