That the United States is unable to articulate exactly what a Ukraine victory against Russia should look like suggests the Washington has no idea.
    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
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      6 months ago

      If they still expect some sort of regime change in Russia, they're utterly delusional. We're going to see that happen in western countries long before Russia given the state of social cohesion here.

      • PKMKII [none/use name]
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        6 months ago

        The fatal error is they assumed Russia was going to be like Iraq or Libya where they could shock and awe a much weaker nation and that a color revolution movement could be found/generated. Russia was too strong and Putin too popular for either to materialize.

          • emizeko [they/them]
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            6 months ago

            "if we just kick in the door the whole rotten structure will come crashing down" —Hitler planning Barbarossa

    • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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      6 months ago

      ...and a genocide in eastern Ukraine. A real one. I won't have to feel bad about it because it won't be in the news.

    • bleepbloopbop [they/them]
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      6 months ago

      presumably they don't want to state that as the goal because it's not happening no matter how much money they throw at the situation

  • D61 [any]
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    6 months ago

    A Russia that is so unstable with internal conflict that it somehow negatively affects China to a degree that the USA retains in hegemonic power.

  • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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    6 months ago

    Startingnwars with no exist or victory strategy. Fooking brilliant. They absolutely got out of Afghanistan to get into ukkkraine .

  • CommunistBear [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    Was victory ever truly even desired? I figured this was a new potential forever-war to pad the bottom lines of MIC companies. Regime change in Russia would obviously be ideal for the ghouls but a constant flow of cash to the MIC is reason enough

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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      6 months ago

      No, from the beginning it looked like a typical hegemony maintenance proxy war to destabilize entire region. Tried and practiced for decades in the West Asia.

      • CommunistBear [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        Of course, how could I forget about destabilizing a region for more shock doctrine shit