Yes, and in modern ideology it means the bizarre alt-right idea that elites are all in a pedophile cult and they sacrifice children. You never hear it mentioned outside of real #pizzagate material.
You know how when bad things happen under capitalism and people are like "Damn this is just like China/Venezuela"? This is the metaphysical version of that. People living in a society dominated by Christianity, created by it, and somehow the evil of the world belongs only to demons.
This isn't Moloch, this is Christ. It's the same idealist division between what Christianity says it is and what it actually is. Just like how capitalist make all these claims about it being freedom and justice. Jesus may have talked a good game but absolutely fucking nobody ever put it into practice so it doesn't matter. What matters is what people did with it. It's an intrinsic part of Western hegemony and everything the left opposes. Liberation theology might as well be a different religion all together. For every John Brown there were thousands of slavers who were also good Christians.
I will fully argue that Christianity has been responsible for more evil in the last 2000 years than anything else on earth. I try to move past this because I don’t think it’s feasible, but I really do think Christianity needs to be rooted out and destroyed, banned, and oppressed.
It's not Christianity itself, it's just the piece of the superstructure that won out and became the prevalent cultural religion tied to feudalism/capitalism in the West. Obviously there was feudalism in other parts of the world that weren't Christian. So it's a thing that is bad in this particular moment of spacetime, but not throughout all of spacetime.
However, if we're going to indulge the usage of religious culture to get a point across, I suggest we oppose it on the same terms and embrace the "evil" side. Because the evil side isn't actually evil, it's the good side that's materially bad.
You can't fight it on its own terms because it axiomatically defines one side as good and one side as evil. Acts are pious because God loves them and God loves them because they are pious. It's obvious circular logic. Cleansing the uncivilized hordes in the name of God was good because it was done in the name of God. Materially it was bad.
As leftists we have material reasons to oppose colonialism, feudalism, capitalism, imperialism. The immaterial version of that is challenging God's authority which falls in the realm of Satan. Historically it wasn't only Satanists who opposed Christianity. But I'm talking about theologically, we go with Satan. We don't let them pass on the idea that Christians who do bad things aren't real Christians, but possessed by evil. We know evil doesn't materially exist, but on their terms it does. But it's not actual evil.
What I'm getting at is a delicate dance between material reality and idealistic nonsense. You do the nonsense, but you do it knowingly and for material reasons. It's a synthesis.
Now Pagans did oppose Christianity, but they were once the dominant cultural power. This goes back to the dialectical thing of recognizing a moment in spacetime. If this were per-Christian Europe, I wouldn't be championing Pagans, at least not all of them. They would hold a similar spot as Christians do now. In that moment of spacetime, things are different and you do different things.
Idk, Christianity has been particularly responsible for a lot of horrors and I don’t think it’s just because Christianity was the tool that was there at the time, but because of the specific tenets of that religion and how it encourages it’s adherents to act.
Now Pagans did oppose Christianity, but they were once the dominant cultural power
Ngl I largely think they were correct to do so. Did they oppress Christianity because they were the dominant cultural power and that’s what dominant cultural powers do? Or did they oppress Christianity because they correctly understood it to be dangerous?
I do support your material-anti-Christianity though, “God is real and he’s evil and Christians are the servants of objective evil” is a great hit and also the second half is objectively true
well we certainly don't need to scrape the barrel for late season stargate sg-1 villains to communicate that a group we all know to be bad are in fact bad.
Moloch? What the fuck is this alt-right language?
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Yes, and in modern ideology it means the bizarre alt-right idea that elites are all in a pedophile cult and they sacrifice children. You never hear it mentioned outside of real #pizzagate material.
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I hear it all the time mentioned in leftist media now. Idk what youre talking about or why it would even be a problem to co-opt it if we hadnt already
I’ve heard it from the left longer than the right, originally in regards to school shootings
What does this even mean lol
I am a modern ideology :zizek-fuck:
I am the very model of a modern ideology
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This is metropolis erasure
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dont build your worldview off of half remembered articles and twitter threads. bad idea always and forever.
Hold on, we're not supposed to do that? Then what the hell are we even doing here?
The fash claiming to be good Christians have a tendency to behave more like they're worshipping a golden idol who demands child sacrifices.
You know how when bad things happen under capitalism and people are like "Damn this is just like China/Venezuela"? This is the metaphysical version of that. People living in a society dominated by Christianity, created by it, and somehow the evil of the world belongs only to demons.
This isn't Moloch, this is Christ. It's the same idealist division between what Christianity says it is and what it actually is. Just like how capitalist make all these claims about it being freedom and justice. Jesus may have talked a good game but absolutely fucking nobody ever put it into practice so it doesn't matter. What matters is what people did with it. It's an intrinsic part of Western hegemony and everything the left opposes. Liberation theology might as well be a different religion all together. For every John Brown there were thousands of slavers who were also good Christians.
As always, praise Lucifer.
You're confusing paganism and Satanism, two totally different things.
not from the pov of hegemonic christianity they aren't
I'm not saying Moloch is Satan though. However, if you are pagan, opposing god from that angle is fine too.
I will fully argue that Christianity has been responsible for more evil in the last 2000 years than anything else on earth. I try to move past this because I don’t think it’s feasible, but I really do think Christianity needs to be rooted out and destroyed, banned, and oppressed.
It's not Christianity itself, it's just the piece of the superstructure that won out and became the prevalent cultural religion tied to feudalism/capitalism in the West. Obviously there was feudalism in other parts of the world that weren't Christian. So it's a thing that is bad in this particular moment of spacetime, but not throughout all of spacetime.
However, if we're going to indulge the usage of religious culture to get a point across, I suggest we oppose it on the same terms and embrace the "evil" side. Because the evil side isn't actually evil, it's the good side that's materially bad.
You can't fight it on its own terms because it axiomatically defines one side as good and one side as evil. Acts are pious because God loves them and God loves them because they are pious. It's obvious circular logic. Cleansing the uncivilized hordes in the name of God was good because it was done in the name of God. Materially it was bad.
As leftists we have material reasons to oppose colonialism, feudalism, capitalism, imperialism. The immaterial version of that is challenging God's authority which falls in the realm of Satan. Historically it wasn't only Satanists who opposed Christianity. But I'm talking about theologically, we go with Satan. We don't let them pass on the idea that Christians who do bad things aren't real Christians, but possessed by evil. We know evil doesn't materially exist, but on their terms it does. But it's not actual evil.
What I'm getting at is a delicate dance between material reality and idealistic nonsense. You do the nonsense, but you do it knowingly and for material reasons. It's a synthesis.
Now Pagans did oppose Christianity, but they were once the dominant cultural power. This goes back to the dialectical thing of recognizing a moment in spacetime. If this were per-Christian Europe, I wouldn't be championing Pagans, at least not all of them. They would hold a similar spot as Christians do now. In that moment of spacetime, things are different and you do different things.
Idk, Christianity has been particularly responsible for a lot of horrors and I don’t think it’s just because Christianity was the tool that was there at the time, but because of the specific tenets of that religion and how it encourages it’s adherents to act.
Ngl I largely think they were correct to do so. Did they oppress Christianity because they were the dominant cultural power and that’s what dominant cultural powers do? Or did they oppress Christianity because they correctly understood it to be dangerous?
I do support your material-anti-Christianity though, “God is real and he’s evil and Christians are the servants of objective evil” is a great hit and also the second half is objectively true
What do you want us to say instead, the fucking Demiurge?
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well we certainly don't need to scrape the barrel for late season stargate sg-1 villains to communicate that a group we all know to be bad are in fact bad.
no
it's kinda weird tho
No
copying wacko christianisms on purpose is weird. they've polluted the culture enough as it is, we don't need to take on more of their baggage.
Mom come pick me up they're telling me saying Based is reactionary again
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