here's the thing: everyone complains about late capitalism and how alienated and isolated we all are. everyone acknowledges this, and reassures each other of this, alone.

you need to get out of yourself, and your head, and your small bubble of one, and you need to go see old friends, or former friends, or people in your social circle who are just meh, or your annoying roommates, or your co-workers, or your former co-workers, or your lame family members, or your lame and bigoted family members, or strangers at a bar, or whomever, and party. meeting people is praxis, strengthening relationships is praxis, making yourself seen and vulnerable to another is praxis. please, guys, go out.

this, here, now, is a facsimile, mediated through a thousand screens. go kiss, go get kissed, go reject a kiss, go be denied a kiss. go out.

  • Zodiark [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I think the post is badly phrased.

    It's really just a "Take initiative to pursue a social life" which is just really mild advice that it comes off as simultaneous welcome reminder to be a social being and condescending that the audience is so radically socially inept.

    I'm surprised this struck such a nerve though.

    • Yeat [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      exactly, you worded that well. i don’t feel like op had any ill intentions or posted this in bad faith though so to see everyone say “fuck you” to them seems very gross and mean.

      • Zodiark [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Honestly reminiscent of that r/cth post about being a virgin that was apparently read on cumtown.

          • Leper_Messiah [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Wait, was that an actual struggle session? I saw that post early and i chuckled because i thought it was funny...

            Is washing ass a controversial opinion?!

            • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              nah it devolved into a struggle session about bidets vs. toilet paper and which was bourgeois decadence. the user who thought a $15 bidet was middle class extravagance went off the rails and started insulting everyone until they were banned

            • Zodiark [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I mean OP came off as sincere but socially insensitive at worst. I don't see hostile intent in his wording unless other posters here can invoke the powers of SCOTUS judges to read the minds of authors not present.

              "Live a little" is now fighting words. Meet me in the schoolyard at 3 o'clock.

              Yeesh. Invoke the options of: Ignore it. Disengage.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Calling other people on Hexbear "disgusting" as you did because they're not socially outgoing enough for you is worse.

        • Yeat [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          you’re misreading what i’m saying or i just worded it poorly. someone not being outgoing isn’t “disgusting”, i’m not even very outgoing myself and don’t absolutely love being social, i tend to stick to myself a good chunk of the time. what’s disgusting is the REACTION to this post since it wasn’t made in bad faith and was obviously meant to be some nice encouragement to those op felt needed it, sorry for the mix up

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            i had a serious thing typed up in response but after re-reading i feel like you’re joking with me i can’t tell LMAO

            Everything's a quirky le random just a prank bro joke to you, or you're being taken out of context.

            Pick one.

            what’s disgusting is the REACTION

            When someone concern trolls about what everyone else should/must be doing with their personal lives, that kind of reaction is likely to happen.

            was obviously meant to be some nice encouragement

            :doubt: and even if that's wasn't the intended case, clearly a lot of people did see it as hurtful and insulting and blaming people for feeling hurt and insulted is chud brained.

            • Yeat [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              i thought you were joking at first because of the emoji, how you worded things, you trying to imply i was a wrecker or something 😭 you do actually make a good point at the end there though, but i just cannot wrap my head around this being a hostile post at all

              • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                but i just cannot wrap my head around this being a hostile post at all

                There's an old saying about comedians: it isn't the audience's responsibility to laugh. It's the comedian's responsibility to try to make them laugh.

                I think it applies here too: if the audience feels hostility or insult, blaming them for feeling hostility and insult is also hostile.

                  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    I just came back from a celebration and you're either calling me a shut-in or you're just being abrasive toward people you're calling shut-ins.

                    No hostility in the OP's dubious advice or those that are stanning for it. Totally none.

                      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                        2 years ago

                        That's an incredibly generous reading of both the OP and the prior replies leading up to here.

                        You're upset enough at me sticking up for "shut ins" that you're apparently accusing me of being a "shut in" too.

                        Half the users in here are acting like there’s a zombie outbreak and they will die if they go outside lol

                        No hostility from the OP or the OP's "advice" defenders. None at all! :sus:

                          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                            2 years ago

                            Your least hostile post yet. It's so disgusting that some shut-ins didn't accept the not hostile wholesome advice, isn't it? Some might even say it's crazy which never means someone is mentally ill. :sus:

                            • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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                              2 years ago

                              you are vastly more hostile than anyone else in here, and every comment you make drips with condescension and like 6 layers of intention mind reading and assumptions

                              • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                2 years ago

                                Are you going anywhere with this besides further demonstrating that the "not hostile" unsolicited advice for "shut-ins" maybe was hostile after all if you feel this strongly about defending it?

                                • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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                                  2 years ago

                                  do you ever stop and re-read your comments to see how you would sound to an outside person? you're always airing some ancient grievance of yours that you've built up over the months of obsessive posting, and you're always passive aggressively trying to dunk on people you argued with and one up them months later - resulting in these complex gordian knots of comments where the only thing outsiders can parse is the condescending tone and emojis, and the implications within implications that you are following are entirely lost to everyone else

                        • space_comrade [he/him]
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                          2 years ago

                          That’s an incredibly generous reading of both the OP and the prior replies leading up to here.

                          It's a pretty normal reading actually, it baffles me how anybody could be so upset at a post like that tbh.

                          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                            2 years ago

                            I'll just agree to disagree there.

                            it baffles me how anybody could be so upset at a post like that tbh

                            It isn't the responsibility of an audience to have the exact reaction the speaker demands of them.

                            • space_comrade [he/him]
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                              2 years ago

                              If your first reaction to somebody being happy and telling other people to be happy and socialize is "um ackschly sweaty..." you should probably do some introspection.

                              • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                2 years ago

                                to somebody being happy and telling other people to be happy and socialize

                                There's that generous interpretation I mentioned. Cherry-picking, really.

                                People didn't react the way OP (or you) wanted them to. So clearly that wasn't their interpretation. Apparently to you that interpretation is invalid.

                                I tried sticking up for other people and it's been tiring, even if it only makes the hostility more apparent with each defense of it.

                                I'm really not interested in going through this song and dance yet again this morning.

                                • space_comrade [he/him]
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                                  2 years ago

                                  Apparently to you that interpretation is invalid.

                                  It's not invalid, it is unhealthy though.

                                  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                    2 years ago

                                    It's only healthy to thank someone for abrasively delivered unsolicited advice?

                                    I personally went out. I think I came back too soon, especially considering the shitstorm in this thread because I tried sticking up for people that couldn't, wouldn't, or shouldn't for any number of reasons.

                                    Is it "unhealthy" for all of them no matter their reasons?

                                    • space_comrade [he/him]
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                                      2 years ago

                                      If they didn't like the post they could have just, you know, scrolled past it and not interact with it. OP wasn't calling out anybody in particular, it's entirely yours and their choice to take the post so seriously.

                                      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                        2 years ago

                                        If they didn’t like the post they could have just, you know, scrolled past it and not interact with it.

                                        If that applies, then if the OP's defenders didn't like the replies that the OP received, they could have done the same. It was entirely their choice to take those replies so seriously.

                                        I'm tired of this. I logged back in too soon and this "not hostile" thread harshed my buzz. I better go.