Also, literally who cares. This isn't politics. Zoomers and millenials are very left-wing and that hasn't changer significantly in recent years. This isn't happening at scales that are shifting the political landscape. Idk why there is an obsession with this shit.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    Ultimately it's just about gendered content targeted at young boys that counters mysogyny rather than being laden with it.

    Right now the far right are using people like Andrew Tate, a champion kickboxer that young boys quickly look up to as a "winner" for being big strong and being able to beat others. They're 10-16year old impressionable young boys, sometimes even younger.

    In the past the left had titans like Muhammad Ali as left wing male role models .

    What is masculinity without toxicity? I think people on Hexbear show us regularly with the various "dudes rock" posts. It's just man-focused content like ladbible stuff, but would be interspersed with educational content about respecting women instead of abusing women.

    Vaush is already demonstrating that this is not what he intends to do. He is literally just going to become a typical misogynyst but wearing fake left aesthetics as he has always done, he just wants to get in on the grift. But this doesn't mean that there shouldn't be a REAL left wing effort in this arena.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        He won two ISKA world kickboxing titles and was ranked second in the world in his weight class at peak.

        I think you are probably talking about his MMA record? Which is not kickboxing.

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      What is masculinity without toxicity? I think people on Hexbear show us regularly with the various “dudes rock” posts. It’s just man-focused content like ladbible stuff, but would be interspersed with educational content about respecting women instead of abusing women.

      i don't think there's anything uniquely masc besides aesthetics and roles... to any gender for that matter. I rejected what society prescribed for me and there was nothing left. I'd be an abolitionist if other people didn't experience gender euphoria.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I'm fine with that idea, but for these young boys that's not really an option until society changes. Failure to compete is just giving these boys to the fascists to educate in any way they see fit.

        • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          of course. i just don't see how we can simultaneously reinforce patriarchal norms and adequately support and protect queer kids, especially because gender stuff is so ephemeral.