Next time it starts with LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO and it keeps going from there.

  • goboman [any]
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    2 years ago

    Any American want to speculate how this actually ends?

    There's no reason for the republican splitters to actually give in until they get their demands. I suppose they could crumble under social pressure but given the nature of the group that seems unlikely.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Here's an analysis...

      At this moment, McCarthy has 4 options:

      1. Flip enough hold outs to win. (Basically 17 of 21).

      2. Work with Democrats to get to 218. Give them good committee ratios, other powers.

      3. Move to a plurality threshold.

      4. Drop out.

      Problems for McCarthy is:

      1. Flipping 17 members who already voted against him 9 times seems unlikely.

      2. Working with Democrats is a political disaster for him. The base would go nuts. (PS it already has problems with him.)

      3. Plurality is VERY risky. Jeffries could win.

      So that leaves

      1. Drop out.

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      The problem with a lot of American political analysis is that it underestimates how truly stupid and insanely grasping some pols are.

      I think #1 is still possible because McCarthy is a a total moron. He might give the holdouts an insane amount of power with procedures that somehow give them power over him too. So - he becomes speaker and then they royally fuck him over somehow.

      Also - if McCarthy is desperate - he'll be a desperate total total moron. Maybe #3 is possible too.

      • rectal_cement [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Honestly my big concern is that long term this will fracture the republican party with the more classical republican wing being supported by the democrats while the maga fash side splitting and effectively being the final say in passing bills or whatever. I think this moment tells Lauren bobert and gaetz that they do not have enough support from the rest of the party and must continue to support trump and his politics even after he's out of the picture

        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          edit-2
          2 years ago

          It's a weird situation. To become the speaker - McCarthy must do one of two things...

          1. Get the hardliners to vote for him. But how? They said they'd never vote for him. They seem to truly hate him.

          or

          1. Get some dem support without losing GOP votes due to outrage. That's 100% impossible not only for McCarthy but for anybody.

          The funniest outcome is Scorpion and the Frog. McCarthy changes the parliamentary rules so much that he empowers the hardliners with the ability to fire him at will, he becomes speaker, and in a few months they fire his ass just because they can.