https://twitter.com/LailaAlarian/status/1785725466998964654

  • ChaosMaterialist [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    "Department of Homeland Security" is a farce since Jan6. I'm sure arresting and brutalizing college kids will do wonders to your argument and image. /s /s /s /s (jesus christ /s)

    What has changed since he was Vice President overseeing the boots coming down on Occupy?

      • dkr567 [comrade/them, he/him]
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        7 months ago

        Is there even a difference between DHS and NSA? Or is this just another American extravagance like their political parties.

        • bleepbloopbop [they/them]
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          7 months ago

          dhs is for like, big tent coordination between the different ghoulish agencies, iirc. It was created after the failure to put the pieces together in the leadup to 9/11

          NSA is specifically signals intelligence, like mass data gathering at the telecom level, and crypto shenanigans, CIA is foreign espionage (and whatever the fuck they want tbh), FBI is domestic law enforcement/espionage. But each of them is so big and unaccountable that there's a lot of overlap in practice. They are genuinely different, but they all serve the same purposes really. CIA is the only one that really stands out for its brazen disobeying of the civilian government and complete unaccountability, since they fund their own shit via trafficking, etc. in addition to the normal budget process

        • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          My understanding is that DHS now are basically the service economy workers of the intelligence community; doing Intel admin between Coast Guard, Border Guard, TSA etc, strip searches, entrance interviews, unglamorous, low-tech grunt work in-country.

          I believe the rationale, at least politically after 9/11 was that unlike the CIA/NSA etc it was a cabinet level agency so answered directly to the executive branch with less independence.

        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          7 months ago

          Is there even a difference between DHS and NSA?

          Thugs to the DHS of us
          Cryptologist to the NSA
          Here we are
          Stuck in the middle with them

          Music

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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        7 months ago

        leo-point you've got it right there. I just remember thinking how cartoonishly Nazi sounding that name is Homeland Security.