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    • Infantile_Disorder [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The mention of Chomsky reminds me that, no matter how much he talks on imperialism or manufactured consent, every 4 years the MSM drag him into the spotlight so he can say "vote for the Democrats because the Republicans are mean" because he's still a stooge after all this time.

      • duderium [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Zizek is also supportive of the US proxy war in Ukraine , and has said that we should be sending Ukraine more weapons. Marxists may disagree about whether we should support Russia, but we are united in opposing NATO.

        And though this article might be flawed, I have to wonder what a debate between Zizek and an actual communist (like the article's author) would look like. It's easy enough to body a fucking dork like Jordan Peterson—anyone reading this could tear him a new one—but how would Zizek's blubbering jokes and obscure Lacanian terminology fare against someone talking about imperialism? Zizek himself said, at that debate, that he isn't a Marxist—he's a Hegelian, which is an extremely complex way of saying that you think fundamental change is impossible (because what we really want is to fuck our mothers, which society prevents us from doing).

        The article is also correct that Zizek was actively involved in dismantling Yugoslavia, which is truly unforgivable.

        • JustAnotherCourier [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          And though this article might be flawed, I have to wonder what a debate between Zizek and an actual communist (like the article’s author) would look like.

          I need to be very clear here; anyone whose first instincts are to artificially declare anyone on the left a Nazi is someone we should be running from. This is a liberal vector of attack that only results in the "actually they were national socialists" discourse AIPAC uses. There's also the fact that there are claims that the author plagiarized the work entirely, stealing directly from other communist projects for personal or secretarian gain.

          I am not arguing against the idea that Zizek should face true communist scrutiny, but if this level of intellectual dishonesty is the best we can muster we'll pay for it in the long term.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      I think many people make the mistake of thinking that any person (theorist, philosopher, activist etc.) must have the correct takes all the time. It is entirely possible for someone to contribute significantly in theory (for example, I still think the Sublime Object of Ideology was conceptually groundbreaking in the 1990s, nowadays the concept has been normalized among the left but back then, during an era of post-Soviet collapse and when it seemed as though Western liberal capitalism had prevailed, it was something else entirely) but still have the other parts (especially as a non-specialist) wrong.

      Can't be repeated enough. Its very exhausting to see an entire body of work tossed on the bonfire because someone, particularly late in life, had a bad opinion. Whether you're talking about Kanye West or Slavoj Žižek, you can't lose the sight of the forest by fixating on every individual tree.

      Also worth remembering that not everything is a black-and-white issue. Zizek's got family and friends in Eastern Europe. Dude has a very real vested personal interest in the Ukraine War not spilling out over the country's borders. Modern Russia isn't exactly a paragon of virtue. So while the best take tends to "End the war at any cost, because this pissing contest isn't worth the calamity it brings" (:china:), its tiresome to harangue a guy for saying what amounts to "I hope the Americans form a bullwark against this shit before my family home gets hit with the backside of a cruise missile".