• ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    GWB was a large factor that made me suppress my southern accent for like 15+ years. Only since like, senior year of college have I come to realize that hating southern accents is just classism again and that it’s okay to say things like “Y’all”

    • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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      2 years ago

      Best part is that GWB's accent is an affect, he didn't talk that way at Harvard and Yale, and his brother, Jeb, doesn't talk like that at all.

    • duderium [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah definitely. I feel deeply uncomfortable saying ya'll. I grew up hearing everyone, including girls, saying "you guys," but I know that's gendered and incorrect. People here say "folks" or "everyone" or find some other way to address groups of people, but it almost always ends up sounding remarkably fake.

      • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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        2 years ago

        I grew up hearing everyone, including girls, saying “you guys,” but I know that’s gendered and incorrect

        If you and everyone around you understands "you guys" to refer to any gender, how is it gendered?

        There's probably some rule written in some book says "'You guys' only refers to men", but this doesn't reflect the way anyone uses the language.

        If you text a group of men and women "you guys come at 3:30 to help set up, everyone else try to be here by 4", they're gonna have no idea that you wanted only the men to show up early.

        • duderium [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          "I just fucked a guy" = I am gay. I think the word "guy" is gendered.

          • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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            2 years ago

            The general rule seems to be that in most contexts, "guy" is gendered, "guys" isn't, but not always.

            Eg, I could say "I fucked 7 guys last week", and it's still gendered. I could say "They hired some guy to help out", and it's not

      • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        grew up hearing everyone, including girls, saying “you guys,” but I know that’s gendered

        I think it needs to be used as a gendered phrase to be gendered. Where I am at least no one says folks or y'all and the usage of you guys is not gendered