The topic of discussion was the fact that we're trying to encourage employees to share salaries with each other. They wanted to try to argue that it was against the "corporate culture" and "Attitude" and that it creates an "uncomfortable work environment" where people who might not be willing to share that information are feeling pressured to, and compared it to sharing medical information.
When you flip all uses of the state from working against the proletariat to working against the bourgeoisie and it all looks pretty decent.
I really don't want to lock anyone in a cage if there's literally any more humane alternative.
If the bougie is hell bent on destroying socialism then incarcerating them might be a necessary measure of protecting the socialist state.
An alternative could be to strip them of their assets and class position I suppose. But such an act could seriously spook the other bougies, I suspect prison scares them much less than losing their property and class.
Honestly, if you're not socializing the economy, what's the point of a socialist state? Like, stripping the bourgeoisie of the assets and class position is the point.
For the same reason every existing ML project hasn't just pushed the communism button yet. Gotta coexist with the capitalist system until its defeat is guaranteed.
That's not what I'm saying dude. Venezuela has the commune system where control of firms is handed directly into worker control. That's what practical socialization looks like. I'm not making an immediatist argument, I'm making the same arguments the Chinese left was in the late 60s.
Yes but there are still industrial bourgeoisie in the country, they are still likely trying to fuck the revolution, and a moral decision between incarceration, stripping their assets or execution is likely to be necessary at some point or another.
The problem that you have is that while stripping their assets is more moral from our point of view, the reaction is actually likely to be significantly worse for the country than imprisoning them because from the perspective of the bourgeoisie imprisonment is something they can avoid whereas stripping their assets is not. The other bourgeoisie are likely to ramp up their efforts against you as are the international bourgeoisie if you make the more moral choice from our point of view, this doesn't mean it's the most strategic and correct option.