Notable quotes from OP:

Sure the FBI sent information to Twitter, but Twitter and Facebook etc. had the freedom to decide how to act on it.

They asked social media agencies to try to limit vaccine disinformation and far right extremism. It's a far cry from Chinese state media where any criticism of the state is punishable by arrest.

Go on about Assange all you like but he's a tool and Chelsea Manning proves we let people off easy for leaking state secrets

I support your free speech to go on with your Russian propaganda false equivalence nonsense, a freedom that would not be afforded to me if I tried arguing the evils of Putin in Russia.

yes invading Iraq was wrong, but a) we had and made use of the freedom to protest it and b) the plan wasn't to annex Iraq the way Putin is trying to do with Ukraine, for those people (not me) who supported it, it was to give them democracy and then let them vote on their own leaders in the aftermath of 9/11.

Afghanistan came first but both were GW Bush mistakes and I very much doubt our governments/NATO would make the same type of interventions now.

(About Iraq War) At least we had the freedom to protest and even the people who supported it had democratic ideals

Some notable takes from other :LIB: in the thread too, actually the whole thread is a gold mine. Have a look if you can tolerate being on :reddit-logo:

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    (About Iraq War) At least we had the freedom to protest and even the people who supported it had democratic ideals

    You know, there's a South Park episode about the Iraq War where they go back to the past to see the debate about free speech and come to an incredibly cynical conclusion, that the thing the first amendment does for America is allow us to have our cake and eat it too by letting the anti war crowd protest while the government ignores them and does whatever it wants anyway. This guy is basically arguing the same thing.

    Also like SP, he somehow doesn't conclude that "invading a country and killing millions is bad", which puts the war into a superposition of being both good that it happened and bad enough to warrant protesting against. It's the kind of logical pretzel you're bound to get yourself into if you can't get past the barrier of assuming that the US Government is a force for good.