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      • geikei [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Maoist mass line and people's war tactics are far from being only applicable in jungles and countries that half the working class are peasants. This is a take from 1955 or smth. What did the Black Panther Party do but adjust maoist and leninist mass line and anti-state organizing tactics in the reality of urban america and its minorities and opressed? Sure they "failed" , but they failed much better than any other revolutionary org in modern american history. No reason to believe a maoist approach (which is nothing but a more wholistic and advanced leninist approach) cant be the base for successfull organizing in America. At least no more reason to believe that than to believe it for any other approach, be it anarchist ,demsoc ,entryist or anything

      • ZoomeristLeninist [they/them, she/her]
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        2 years ago

        a lot of rural communities have proletarianized agricultural workers. black and immigrant workers who the owners of the land rely on. even a lot of the small "family farms" use hired labor. even the most rural areas will have large towns/small cities nearby, and the services in these cities are provided by some of the most marginalized workers in amerika. less than 1% (3 million) of amerikans own farmland, yet there are 5-6 million ppl who labor in these farms but have no ownership of them. 14% of amerikans live in rural area. thats over 40 million rural ppl who dont own farmland. it would be a mistake to totally dismiss rural folk from organizing

    • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I would argue the objective conditions for socialism are very much present in the US, or at least are close to being ripe.

      The subjective conditions are, as you point out, lagging woefully, WOEFULLY behind them. So much so that I think getting into a discussion about whether to control urban centres or rural areas is putting the cart about 100 miles in front of the horse.

      Around the world in the imperial core the current job is to reverse the huge losses that proletarian parties have suffered in the last 50 years, starting again from scratch in a lot of cases. It’s going to be hard work but if not now, when? And if not us, who?

      • happyandhappy [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        "surround the cities from the villages" did not literally mean hide in rural areas to attack urban areas but to stay in the areas where you are liked and have influence over to engage with your targets.

        • scarletdevil [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          The current iteration of the American left wing is only in it's infancy, but it will grow due to the current trajectory of technology and labor in our post-industrial society. The idea of collective ownership is returning because of the way society is developing, and there is some basis to support this claim as well. Already there is an increased consciousness towards labor unions and workers rights in America, despite the failure of the left to achieve electoral victory, and as Lenin noted a hundred years ago, it's our job to further radicalize and help people understand their class consciousness. It'll be a long process, but we do have several advantages on our side.