Sad. All Utah trans bills heard yesterday just passed their senate. This would be a gender affirming care ban, a birth certificate ban under 18, and a forced outing bill.They will move to the Utah house.— Erin Reed (@ErinInTheMorn) January 20, 2023
The fundamentalist clerics took power in the Iranian Revolution by purging the communists who had formed a temporary alliance with them to defeat the Shah. The USA put the Shah in power. The USA overthrew Mossadegh because he wanted to nationalize petroleum companies. People in America (or other imperial core countries) using Iran as a benchmark example of a "backwards" country is odd given the history of what the US has done to Iran since 1953, and what Britain did to Iran before that. I know you were trying to say that Iran is more progressive than Utah, but that comparison comes with the expectation that it's supposed to surprise us, because it is assumed that everyone thinks Iran is just naturally backwards. It's important to question that assumption.
I think he picked Iran because it has problematically more "progressive" policies on trans people. Also I doubt anyone here doesn't know the history of the US involvement in iran.
I think he picked Iran because it has problematically more “progressive” policies on trans people.
Right. and this is supposed to surprise us for the reasons I explained. The implication is that even Iran is more progressive than the US. You know what I mean? Can you see the rhetorical implication there? the implication being its supposed to surprise you because there's an established myth of supremacy that is assumed to be the default. In this case that myth being that the US is "progressive" by default and Iran is "backwards" by default. So when Iran is even "ironically" or "problematically" more "progressive" on a particular issue, it's supposed to be surprising to the American, who has internalized their supremacy to such an extent that anything which contradicts it is a statistical anomaly.
Also I doubt anyone here doesn’t know the history of the US involvement in iran.
I don't assume knowledge in others. I just say things, and if they say "I know that already." then I say "cool!"
Congrats to Utah, for being able to make Iran look progressive
The fundamentalist clerics took power in the Iranian Revolution by purging the communists who had formed a temporary alliance with them to defeat the Shah. The USA put the Shah in power. The USA overthrew Mossadegh because he wanted to nationalize petroleum companies. People in America (or other imperial core countries) using Iran as a benchmark example of a "backwards" country is odd given the history of what the US has done to Iran since 1953, and what Britain did to Iran before that. I know you were trying to say that Iran is more progressive than Utah, but that comparison comes with the expectation that it's supposed to surprise us, because it is assumed that everyone thinks Iran is just naturally backwards. It's important to question that assumption.
I think he picked Iran because it has problematically more "progressive" policies on trans people. Also I doubt anyone here doesn't know the history of the US involvement in iran.
Right. and this is supposed to surprise us for the reasons I explained. The implication is that even Iran is more progressive than the US. You know what I mean? Can you see the rhetorical implication there? the implication being its supposed to surprise you because there's an established myth of supremacy that is assumed to be the default. In this case that myth being that the US is "progressive" by default and Iran is "backwards" by default. So when Iran is even "ironically" or "problematically" more "progressive" on a particular issue, it's supposed to be surprising to the American, who has internalized their supremacy to such an extent that anything which contradicts it is a statistical anomaly.
I don't assume knowledge in others. I just say things, and if they say "I know that already." then I say "cool!"
Edit: Deleted for pointless and uncalled for snark. Apologies.