Talking about over-diagnosis results in people with a real problem going undiagnosed. So many people rely on adhd meds just to be functional human beings it's really toxic discourse.
Diagnosed at 27. Amphetamine medication lifted the fog from my mind for the very first time in my life. If I had been diagnosed fifteen years earlier I have no doubt my situation would be completely different. I was barely able to graduate college because I literally skipped all my classes, despite having a desire to attend them.
Agreed, I also think that the aversion to taking/giving meds comes from the ableist/eugenicist conditioning that we all get from society. "I didn't need adderall because I'm not one of those", etc.
I hate the discourse around ADHD over-diagnosis, because few people are unable to distinguish between:
a. Lazy parents giving their rambunctious 7 year old stims because they aren't perfectly obedient little kids.
b. People with inattentiveness having serious problems fitting within the parameters society expects them to function.
People then use their perception of A to determine that B are just lazy, poorly-behaved people who have a fake condition used to excuse impulsivity and not paying attention.
Half of everyone I mention having ADHD to looks at me in disgust like I'm a drug addict undeserving of any consideration differing from neurotypical people.
It's possible for a condition to be simultaneously overdiagnosed and underdiagnosed (if the wrong people are being diagnosed). I've never heard anyone else make that observation.
We should print and frame that first sentence. Lots of children are prescribed that don't need it and many more are never diagnosed because young life is already so structured for you.
And like, for adults why the fuck should it matter if I have a true diagnosis? If I prefer my life taking adderall every day I should be allowed to do that. I understand wanting to make sure we’re not just sedating children for acting like children but adults should absolutely be able to make their own choices.
I think there might be some legitimate health reasons to control the drug, here in the UK at least it's a very controlled drug. Doesn't it raise the heart rate and do some serious things to blood pressure? I know I get those monitored regularly as part of my prescription.
Even if we’re gonna restrict it to a prescription, I don’t see why you should need to have a “legitimate diagnosis.” You could just require that you talk to a doctor and have to have monitoring like that. But if you’re fully aware of the potential side effects I think you should be able to make that choice.
Plus in the US going to the doctor is very expensive
I'm not completely sure what the health implications are but I agree mostly. I think if there are health implications that a requirement of the prescription should be the regular monitoring of heart and blood pressure to make sure people aren't going to blow their hearts up. There are definitely variances depending on dosage that can cause me to noticeably feel that I have a higher heart rate, I typically stay below that level as it's uncomfortable and gives me a bit of anxiety but this might not be the case with everyone.
Yeah I have no problem with implementing steps to make sure people do things safely. But if you want adderall even if it’s cause “I like it” I see no problem with that. I can’t imagine it’s worse than alcohol at the very least.
Because it fucks you up. Not sleeping or eating for days on end makes you become a crazy person. It's also super addictive. There is probably no worse drug to bring to widespread use than amphetamines.
Talking about over-diagnosis results in people with a real problem going undiagnosed. So many people rely on adhd meds just to be functional human beings it's really toxic discourse.
Diagnosed at 27. Amphetamine medication lifted the fog from my mind for the very first time in my life. If I had been diagnosed fifteen years earlier I have no doubt my situation would be completely different. I was barely able to graduate college because I literally skipped all my classes, despite having a desire to attend them.
yea same. forced me to transition as well cause I couldn't just disassociate to distract myself from dysphoria afterwards.
Even just knowing this about oneself makes a big difference in my experience
Agreed, I also think that the aversion to taking/giving meds comes from the ableist/eugenicist conditioning that we all get from society. "I didn't need adderall because I'm not one of those", etc.
I hate the discourse around ADHD over-diagnosis, because few people are unable to distinguish between:
a. Lazy parents giving their rambunctious 7 year old stims because they aren't perfectly obedient little kids.
b. People with inattentiveness having serious problems fitting within the parameters society expects them to function.
People then use their perception of A to determine that B are just lazy, poorly-behaved people who have a fake condition used to excuse impulsivity and not paying attention.
Half of everyone I mention having ADHD to looks at me in disgust like I'm a drug addict undeserving of any consideration differing from neurotypical people.
It's possible for a condition to be simultaneously overdiagnosed and underdiagnosed (if the wrong people are being diagnosed). I've never heard anyone else make that observation.
We should print and frame that first sentence. Lots of children are prescribed that don't need it and many more are never diagnosed because young life is already so structured for you.
And like, for adults why the fuck should it matter if I have a true diagnosis? If I prefer my life taking adderall every day I should be allowed to do that. I understand wanting to make sure we’re not just sedating children for acting like children but adults should absolutely be able to make their own choices.
I think there might be some legitimate health reasons to control the drug, here in the UK at least it's a very controlled drug. Doesn't it raise the heart rate and do some serious things to blood pressure? I know I get those monitored regularly as part of my prescription.
Even if we’re gonna restrict it to a prescription, I don’t see why you should need to have a “legitimate diagnosis.” You could just require that you talk to a doctor and have to have monitoring like that. But if you’re fully aware of the potential side effects I think you should be able to make that choice.
Plus in the US going to the doctor is very expensive
I'm not completely sure what the health implications are but I agree mostly. I think if there are health implications that a requirement of the prescription should be the regular monitoring of heart and blood pressure to make sure people aren't going to blow their hearts up. There are definitely variances depending on dosage that can cause me to noticeably feel that I have a higher heart rate, I typically stay below that level as it's uncomfortable and gives me a bit of anxiety but this might not be the case with everyone.
Yeah I have no problem with implementing steps to make sure people do things safely. But if you want adderall even if it’s cause “I like it” I see no problem with that. I can’t imagine it’s worse than alcohol at the very least.
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Sure but nowhere near the extent that any of these drugs do, and not for 12 hours per day.
You should not have access to amphetamines just because you want them. That would be a nightmare society.
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Because it fucks you up. Not sleeping or eating for days on end makes you become a crazy person. It's also super addictive. There is probably no worse drug to bring to widespread use than amphetamines.
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Hang out with some people addicted to uppers and it won't take long to see what I mean.