I have ADHD which means I'm allowed to hate ADHD meds (which I do).
I also do think it's over diagnosed/a misdiagnosis of another issue based on other kids I knew in college who got time and a half on tests with me, and that's before considering the people who are doing it just to be more productive.
Who are you to judge whether people needs extra time on exams or medication?
Just because people getting extra exam time may not seem like they need it, doesn't mean that they don't.
Just because you don't like ADHD meds doesn't mean they aren't immensely useful for other people with ADHD.
People abusing my medication do great harm to the rest of us because they trivialize their use and liken them to athletic PEDs.
Please be very careful when discussing the abuse & over-prescription of these drugs, because the rest of us definitely feel the fallout of this discussion.
Seriously. If someone asks for an accessibility resource, fucking give it to them. If time and a half will help you on a test, you should have it. Time shouldn’t be a factor in the vast majority of tests.
The vast majority of people don’t NEED extra time. I had maybe one test in my entire time in undergrad that I could’ve used extra time, and it was biochemistry, a class with notoriously bullshit exams.
For most people, more time won’t change anything, because either you know the answer or you don’t. It’s fine to have a time limit but if many people are routinely not finishing in time it’s a bad test, and if someone routinely can’t finish tests in time they should have extra time.
Edit: Also, ultimately I do not trust our institutions to determine who does and doesn’t have a valid disability that deserves accommodations. People are wrongly diagnosed or not diagnosed when they should be all the time. And that’s just of people who CAN go to the doctor. Remember: A diagnosis requires seeing a doctor, likely regularly, and in the US that can cost a lot of money.
Who am I to judge? Someone who knows/knew the people I am talking about.
Who are you to assume that because I said that I think it's over diagnosed/a misdiagnosis that I am a person who thinks they it doesn't exist, or that I don't think the meds help anyone, or that I need the same spiel you have repeated several times now?
Who are you to assume that because I said that I think it’s over diagnosed/a misdiagnosis that I am a person who thinks they it doesn’t exist or that I don’t think the help anyone
Someone who deals with the fallout effects from neurotypicals thinking they can discredit people having ADHD. Carelessness with this argument results in you being cited as the "black friend" that NT fucks use to dismiss our struggles.
I've dealt with NTs whining about over-diagnosis and it being a fake condition in the past week, and probably at least once a month since my diagnosis a few years ago.
I may not personally know your cohort, and perhaps they don't need additional considerations, but people dismissing my need of additional considerations does me far more harm than people getting benefits they don't need. (of course these are inextricably tied).
or that I need the same spiel you have repeated several times now?
"several" meaning one out of my three comments discussing this topic.
My comment isn't a personal attack, and I mean nothing but love, but I'm very aware of how NTs will take comments like your original and use that to dismiss the rest of us with ADHD.
My comment isn't a personal attack, and I mean nothing but love, but I'm very aware of how NTs will take comments like your original and use that to dismiss the rest of us with ADHD.
Please don't pretend you didn't intend to be hostile when you gave me a little sticker on your thoughts of my post like this is middle school and ask me who I am to know my friends.
I identified myself as someone with ADHD (meaning that I think it's real) in my first comment that you responded to. Saying that I think it's over/misdiagnosed, or that I don't personally like the meds, isn't contradictory to ADHD being a real disability.
and ask me who I am to know my friends evaluate if "other kids I knew in college" have a valid disability.
Your comment is okaying it for others to question the validity of whether people are worthy of accomodations...I don't care if you have ADHD or not, this is shit I deal with regularly and it hurts.
The "little sticker" is intended to let you & everyone viewing your comment know I find it harmful.
If your other comments are true, you could have edited your initial comment with the context instead of retroactively adding that your relationship is closer than initially implied, and acting as if the interpretation of the original comment was uncharitable.
No, my comment is saying that I knew who else in my program got accommodations for ADHD because I took tests with them, and that I knew some of them well enough to after 4 years to know that they likely had something else that was misdiagnosed (some of which were later confirmed), or they outright admitted that they didn't actually have ADHD to me. And yes, I found that out because I was friends with manys of those kids, which I have already asked you to stop claiming they aren't, yet you continue.
I didn't need to edit anything. What you did instead of reading what I wrote in good faith was to bad jacket me by talking to me as if I am a chud who found my way on here and that my words were going to change prescription guidelines for the heads of the AMA and DEA that are apparently some of the 500 people online on this niche leftist website. You immediately jumped the most bad faith reading of my comment and have been hostile and bad jacketing anyone in this thread who disagrees with you, including other people with this disability.
Yes, I literally do know the people who were in my program for 4 years.
When some rich kid laughs and tells me they don't have ADHD and their parents just did it so they can get extra time on a test, should I disregard them?
I have ADHD which means I'm allowed to hate ADHD meds (which I do).
I also do think it's over diagnosed/a misdiagnosis of another issue based on other kids I knew in college who got time and a half on tests with me, and that's before considering the people who are doing it just to be more productive.
:downbear:
Who are you to judge whether people needs extra time on exams or medication?
Just because people getting extra exam time may not seem like they need it, doesn't mean that they don't.
Just because you don't like ADHD meds doesn't mean they aren't immensely useful for other people with ADHD.
People abusing my medication do great harm to the rest of us because they trivialize their use and liken them to athletic PEDs.
Please be very careful when discussing the abuse & over-prescription of these drugs, because the rest of us definitely feel the fallout of this discussion.
Seriously. If someone asks for an accessibility resource, fucking give it to them. If time and a half will help you on a test, you should have it. Time shouldn’t be a factor in the vast majority of tests.
:downbear: extensions for disabilities are one thing, but infinite time is incredibly disrespectful to teachers who need to grade the test.
The vast majority of people don’t NEED extra time. I had maybe one test in my entire time in undergrad that I could’ve used extra time, and it was biochemistry, a class with notoriously bullshit exams.
For most people, more time won’t change anything, because either you know the answer or you don’t. It’s fine to have a time limit but if many people are routinely not finishing in time it’s a bad test, and if someone routinely can’t finish tests in time they should have extra time.
Edit: Also, ultimately I do not trust our institutions to determine who does and doesn’t have a valid disability that deserves accommodations. People are wrongly diagnosed or not diagnosed when they should be all the time. And that’s just of people who CAN go to the doctor. Remember: A diagnosis requires seeing a doctor, likely regularly, and in the US that can cost a lot of money.
Who am I to judge? Someone who knows/knew the people I am talking about.
Who are you to assume that because I said that I think it's over diagnosed/a misdiagnosis that I am a person who thinks they it doesn't exist, or that I don't think the meds help anyone, or that I need the same spiel you have repeated several times now?
Someone who deals with the fallout effects from neurotypicals thinking they can discredit people having ADHD. Carelessness with this argument results in you being cited as the "black friend" that NT fucks use to dismiss our struggles.
I've dealt with NTs whining about over-diagnosis and it being a fake condition in the past week, and probably at least once a month since my diagnosis a few years ago.
I may not personally know your cohort, and perhaps they don't need additional considerations, but people dismissing my need of additional considerations does me far more harm than people getting benefits they don't need. (of course these are inextricably tied).
"several" meaning one out of my three comments discussing this topic.
My comment isn't a personal attack, and I mean nothing but love, but I'm very aware of how NTs will take comments like your original and use that to dismiss the rest of us with ADHD.
Please don't pretend you didn't intend to be hostile when you gave me a little sticker on your thoughts of my post like this is middle school and ask me who I am to know my friends.
I identified myself as someone with ADHD (meaning that I think it's real) in my first comment that you responded to. Saying that I think it's over/misdiagnosed, or that I don't personally like the meds, isn't contradictory to ADHD being a real disability.
Your comment is okaying it for others to question the validity of whether people are worthy of accomodations...I don't care if you have ADHD or not, this is shit I deal with regularly and it hurts.
The "little sticker" is intended to let you & everyone viewing your comment know I find it harmful.
If your other comments are true, you could have edited your initial comment with the context instead of retroactively adding that your relationship is closer than initially implied, and acting as if the interpretation of the original comment was uncharitable.
No, my comment is saying that I knew who else in my program got accommodations for ADHD because I took tests with them, and that I knew some of them well enough to after 4 years to know that they likely had something else that was misdiagnosed (some of which were later confirmed), or they outright admitted that they didn't actually have ADHD to me. And yes, I found that out because I was friends with manys of those kids, which I have already asked you to stop claiming they aren't, yet you continue.
I didn't need to edit anything. What you did instead of reading what I wrote in good faith was to bad jacket me by talking to me as if I am a chud who found my way on here and that my words were going to change prescription guidelines for the heads of the AMA and DEA that are apparently some of the 500 people online on this niche leftist website. You immediately jumped the most bad faith reading of my comment and have been hostile and bad jacketing anyone in this thread who disagrees with you, including other people with this disability.
You don’t know those people though. You don’t know what’s going on in their heads. ADHD is invisible
Yes, I literally do know the people who were in my program for 4 years.
When some rich kid laughs and tells me they don't have ADHD and their parents just did it so they can get extra time on a test, should I disregard them?
You don’t actually truly know them. They’re just classmates. You don’t know their minds
Please stop telling me I don't know my friends. This is now bordering on hostile.
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