Have you had fun playing backups of games you legally own on physical media lately? Dumped any BIOS files from the old consoles you own?

I'm sure you have- after all, we're all about doing things legally and being above board here, aren't we? :wink:

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In all honesty, I get why the official forums, subreddits, discords and what have you for different emulator projects have the anti-piracy stances they do- they don't want years of work being cease and desisted by Sony or Nintendo because of people linking to roms. I still think the pretense is funny

  • DickFuckarelli [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It's pretty sad that it's fairly common knowledge within the gaming world that anything older than 15 years old is worthless and/or abandoned. Yet we all have to pretend that we need to protect the IP holders and only those who own the holy grails of "physical copies" are allowed to make backups of their anointed artifacts for personal consumption.

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      One neat trick to stop a game from becoming public domain is to keep reselling it in digital format on stupid e-stores or mini consoles which are expensive raspberry pi's

      • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The trick is to just get a raspberry pi and shove a terabyte of retroarch shit in there

      • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        Get with the times, grandpa! These days it's all about subscription services and cloud gaming (that can be turned off at a whim)! It's sooooo convenient :so-true:

        🤮

    • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      anything older than 15 years old is worthless and/or abandoned

      unless it's a pokemon game, then you can still pay $29.99 for the used GBA cartridge

  • OutrageousHairdo [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    My favorite one is a speedrunner who gives out an "Amazon store link" to a copy of their speed game, which in actuality is just a google drive with a free download of it. They just have to be euphemistic or else Twitch could come down on them.

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    In all honesty, I get why the official forums, subreddits, discords and what have you for different emulator projects have the anti-piracy stances they do- they don’t want years of work being cease and desisted by Sony or Nintendo because of people linking to roms. I still think the pretense is funny

    Some of them are really fucking annoying about it though. Someone closed a ticket on the rpcs github because the log files indicated it might've been a pirated copy :matt-jokerfied:

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I see this a lot in PCSX2 forum posts when trying to find solutions to PS2 emulation issues :owl-pissed:

      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It's so fucking easy to pay lip service to the anti-piracy thing and then just pretend you don't see that the release group's name is in the log files. These fucking nerds.

  • TheModerateTankie [any]
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    2 years ago

    I owned and personally backed up every game from every console released up until the year 2000, however I accidently and lost all of them.

    Good thing I backed them up!

  • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I don't even buy games anymore unless it's gonna get a lot of multiplayer time with friends. Everything else is unashamedly stolen lmao, nintendo can drink from my ass

    • laziestflagellant [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      It's hilarious how there are active Switch emulators and people playing leaked entire games before they are officially released

      • riseuppikmin [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I played the entirety of Pokemon Scarlet 8 days before the commercial release.

        I played Monster Hunter Rise 4 days before it's commercial switch release.

        I played those games, online through the Ryujinx LDN build, sometimes a week before they came out. The switch emulation scene is amazing.

        Emulator developers are incredibly talented people.

        • laziestflagellant [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Honestly even as someone who's really enjoying Scarlet/Violet if you're playing it on an emulator odds are you're getting the better gameplay experience lmao

          it even has working multiplayer....

          • riseuppikmin [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Oh my friends and I have had an absolutely incredible time playing it emulated. It's become our go to putz about game when we aren't fooling around on TP/WW/BOTW multiplayer mods.

  • neo [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I played Demon's Souls on RPCS3 this past October. Even posted about it on hexbear. With the 60FPS patch it was an excellent experience, even though I think the Dark Souls games advance the design significantly enough to be better games.

    • riseuppikmin [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I did the same thing and played it through the online private servers. Game is still a blast and introducing it to friends with functional multiplayer was great.

      • neo [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Custom configuration for that game -> GPU settings -> "Write Color Buffers" check that box.

      • riseuppikmin [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Another user answered the problem in a response to your question, but if you're ever having issues with a game be sure to check out the RPCS3 wiki to see if there are any settings you need to change (you can right click a game and adjust per-game settings) for better performance/compatibility https://wiki.rpcs3.net/index.php?title=Main_Page

    • neo [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      https://vimm.net

      Edit:

      Absolutely under no circumstances should you torrent without a VPN, unless you live in a very cool country. Here are some magnet links (if you don't know what this means, don't ask me. I barely know, myself!).

      https://zerobin.net/?2abc67d8cf292259#DpIzw7xQvCkj2aQk6PhLw+NAlhrN1Ddw8hluWX+mztQ=

      Password: jigglypuff

      • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        unless you live in a very cool country

        or england
        have been torrenting for over 15 years, never got clapped for it

      • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I'm under the heel of USA Comcast and they've never given a fuck. Is everyone else just pirating super new stuff and that's what's causing the problems?

        • barrbaric [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Seems to be. Amazon is really on top of torrents from what I've heard.

    • SuperZutsuki [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      archive.org

      Seriously. You can get fullsets for most consoles or just download the games you want.

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Based on Grimbeard's recent review I decided to emulate The Darkness. It was a hassle to get a PS3 and figure out how to dump games from it but boy oh boy is it worth it to do everything by the book

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      Interestingly for RPCS3 you get the BIOS from Sony's own website, which is thoughtful of them and cuts out the middleman

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      There's a HD texture pack for Twilight Princess (Gamecube version) which looks AMAZING. You should really try it out if you're not that far into the game. Play that shit in 4K. Same goes for Windwaker. Shit's even better than the Nintendo remaster!

    • riseuppikmin [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      There are multiplayer mods for Wind Waker and Twilight Princess if that's something you think you might enjoy too.

  • gremlin [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    is dumping bios even legal? you could just say that violates dmca anti-circumventation anyways

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I think dumping ROM (BIOS is just ROM stored on the motherboard) is in the same category as software end user license agreements. Big IP will tell you it is illegal to reverse engineer your own property and threaten to litigate, but they are afraid of what might happen if they actually take it to court. On the other hand, they will absolutely sue if you are distributing their IP (the dumped ROM).

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I think they're mainly trying to avoid people sharing links to bios files and roms on channels related to the emulators to avoid console manufacturers throwing their entire legal weight at them. What you do with your own hardware inside your own home is none of the devs' business.

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      CXBX-R and XEMU are actually able to play many games, I think XEMU is considered the more advanced one but CXBX-R may have the upper hand in some games IIRC. If you use the iso dumps linked in this thread you'll notice that neither takes regular isos though and you'll need to convert them to different formats for both

  • laziestflagellant [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise was my emulation dream for a long while and Xenia the Xbox 360 emulator has been in a state where it's quite playable and getting better.

    And it's awesome, I love being able to play it again on my PC, thank you emulator devs, thank you people keeping the roms available online.