• zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    2 years ago

    Rock Lee is the hero Leaf Village needs, even if he is not the hero it deserves.

    • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      PlagueOfGripes on Youtube has a hilarious video dissecting the hypocrisy of Naruto's story and Rock Lee's character

      • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        I saw someone try to justify Rock Lee one time by saying that his goal was never to be the hero hero - nor was it to overcome geniuses. He just wanted to be a splendid ninja and be everything he can be. To that end, he rose magnificently by overcoming his inability to mold chakra and a catastrophic injury. Now that I write it, I don't think that POV trumps Neji being correct about geniuses, but it was a neat way of thinking about it.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT2Ssj080lM

        • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          That is technically true and he did succeed, but he specifically says that hard work can overcome natural talent, and the narrative was being set up in a way for the audience to view him as the underdog that deserves to win. But then at the last second it turns upside down to prove that actually no, natural talent will just always trump hard work (whether the author intended it or not).

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        Just listened. Pretty good, but also it saddened me because First Season Naruto was the only one I really liked

        • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I have the same disposition that Plague has usually, in that I spend more time dissecting and critiquing the things I like than things I don't like, but I can still say I enjoyed it at the end of the day. I can give you 99 reasons why Dragon Ball is fucking stupid and makes no sense but I love it so much. You can still like Naruto even if it goes off the rails and sabotages itself.

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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            2 years ago

            Idk, man. I'm more and more predisposed to the tight 26 ep shows. I'll take Trigun, Full Metal Alchemist, and Digimon over DBZ and Naruto simply because they've got a tighter narrative arc.

            Listening to Ballin' Out Super reminds me of how much DBZ was just... awful. Like, they build up these amazing iconic characters and then just abuse or neglect them in later seasons.

            At some point, you've told your story and you just have to pack it in and do something new. Unless you're doing Broly. That was pretty good.

            • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Oh believe me I know lol, Tien is one of my favorite characters and they have thrown his character in the dumpster and spit on him for good measure. The story treats him with nothing but contempt. The longer Dragon Ball goes on, the worse it gets, but I keep reading/watching. :shrug-outta-hecks: