https://unofficialbird.com/bidetmarxman/status/1621452328569307142#m

Somewhat overshadowed by yesterday’s “Chinese spy balloon” hysteria was the revelation that the CIA has recently been trying to broker a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine that involves offering 20% of Ukraine to Russia.

Both Kyiv and Moscow rejected the deal but it does raise an interesting question: why might “high-ranking German foreign politicians” have leaked this?

One possibility is that a faction within the German government is rebelling against the continued subjugation of the German economy for the furtherance of US geopolitical objectives.

If so, the leaking of the US-backed deal can be seen as an attempt to embarrass the Biden admin by exposing the vast chasm between their public rhetoric and their private actions and intentions.

Leaking this attempted deal would also perfectly highlight the fantasy of Ukraine as a sovereign state, when a country on the other side of the world supplies all the weapons to extend the conflict while also drawing up the terms of your surrender.

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Funnily enough, a few hours after the Newsweek article was published, the White House issued a statement calling the existence of the offer “not accurate”.

As the old saying goes, never believe anything until it has been officially denied!

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Amerikkka "offers peace" by forcing the country that it couped in 2014 and then pushed into an avoidable and unnecessary war to give up 20% of its territory

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        2 years ago

        And that's... bad? In your view they should keep fighting until the reclaim every inch, to the last dead Ukrainian?

        • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          It's bad insofar as they shouldn't have done all that shit in the first place. It also represents a massive blow to the blind ideology that led them (NATO) to escalate in the first place. It's probably also not a genuine peace offer. These people sow conflict nonstop, because it is profitable, then whey the lose, they throw a shit fit, and put it on the back burner and switch focus. There is no real "peace.". You started this conversation by asking me who I was "trying to own." Now I must ask you, who are you trying to own? I'm dunking on the empire. Who are you dunking on?

          • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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            2 years ago

            No shit they shouldn't have started it in the first place. But I thought pretty much everyone on here was on the same page of wanting peace. Of calling for diplomatic solutions. If this is true, then to me it's a rare good thing that they're doing, ending the conflict is what I - and I thought all of us - want.

            I started by asking who the story was trying to own and from what angle. If your whole approach is just trying to own NATO from any angle possible, that's how you end up with "NATO is bad for making a peace offer." Which they probably haven't done, because win or lose it doesn't make that big of a difference, they're getting what they want of funneling money to the MIC. If things go badly it just gives more reason to funnel more money. They have no reason to offer peace because they're warmongering ghouls.

            If your perspective is that NATO is bad because they're making peace offers then all I can say is that this is a real case of :heartbreaking:. Apparently you hate them for the exact opposite reason that I do. I also want to dunk on NATO but the difference is that I want to dunk on them for being bloodthirsty psychos while you seem to be dunking on them for not being bloodthirsty enough.

            • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              If this is true, then to me it’s a rare good thing that they’re doing, ending the conflict is what I - and I thought all of us - want.

              yeah, if it's true. Thing is, I don't trust that it's true. Because I've been watching the Amerikkkan empire rug pull everyone with false peace my whole life. "Peace" for America means putting violence on the back burner, not turning the stove off altogether.

              If your whole approach is just trying to own NATO from any angle possible, that’s how you end up with “NATO is bad for making a peace offer.”

              I'm jokerfied and laughing at imperialists for pretending that peace means starting another war, using an entire country as a meatshield, and then surrendering 20% of that country after screeching and shedding crocodile tears for an entire year how much they cared about that country's sovereignty