UPDATE: GETTING A SCRIPT TODAY. THANK GODS. This was so fucking bad.

A Grindr date lifted my script but I'm not gonna go to the pigs over it which is the only way I can get it filled. Luckily I only have to wait 3 days (it's already been 4) to get more but I am. Losing. My. Mind. How do I deal with this? Stay asleep on benadryl (the poor man's Peterson method)? My dogs a seizure trained ESA and won't leave my side so I'm fucking spooked

  • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This is a hyper edited post after an argument and discussion with a comrade below. I am now linking a source and an excerpt from it which backs my claim that alcohol and benzos are cross tolerant and ease each other's symptoms.

    I would not recommend drinking very much, as hangovers are likely to make the situation worse and may do more harm as well if you're out of the danger zone with your benzo withdrawal period, as it is likely to put you directly back into the midst of it once worn off.

    However:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4606320/#:~:text=Benzodiazepines%20are%20cross%2Dtolerant%20with,)%20%5B40%E2%80%9342%5D

    Benzodiazepines are cross-tolerant with alcohol and modulate anxiolysis by stimulating GABA-A receptors [24]. During withdrawal from one agent, the other may serve as a substitute. They are proven to reduce withdrawal severity and incidence of both seizures and delirium tremens (DT) [40–42].

    This is in reference to benzos effect on alcohol withdrawals, and not the other way around, but it does suggest that substituting them is effective.

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
      ·
      2 years ago

      I assumed the reverse was true as well.

      why would you ever assume anything about potentially lethal pharmaceuticals?

        • Tachanka [comrade/them]
          ·
          2 years ago

          you were saying you assumed alcohol would be good for benzo withdrawl because the reverse is is true. Why did you assume that? That's a dangerous assumption to make. That's all I was saying.

          I gave the full context in the rest of the post.

          you admitted it was fucked up advice. which, good!

          So fuck off unless you’re willing to pony up the cash to send people to the doctor / rehab yourself

          ?????????

          we should fix these problems at a systemic level. Telling people to fuck off unless they have the money to do capitalist philanthropy doesn't even make sense.

            • Tachanka [comrade/them]
              ·
              2 years ago

              Imagining you at the hospital telling the doctors to go back to reddit because they told you drinking alcohol is bad.

              • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
                ·
                2 years ago

                Do you have an issue with the other fucking poster suggesting nootropics??

                No? Weird that you're not jumping on them too

                Alcohol and benzos have a cross tolerance and effect the exact same receptors. Leave me alone now please.

                • Tachanka [comrade/them]
                  ·
                  2 years ago

                  Do you have an issue with the other fucking poster suggesting nootropics??

                  didn't notice it + they didn't tell me to fuck off and say some weird shit about how i need to cough up da money

                  • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
                    ·
                    2 years ago

                    shut the fuck up dude what the hell. You obviously have an issue with what I said. I get it. Leave me the hell alone

                    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
                      ·
                      2 years ago

                      k, enjoy your sunday and in the future try not to suggest addictive substances with bad withdrawl symptoms to cure the bad withdrawl symptoms of other drugs

                      • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
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                        2 years ago

                        lol I'm going to put your fucking head in a toilet holy shit

                        Booze and benzos work on the same receptors and ease each other's withdrawals. It's common fucking knowledge for anyone that's dealt with addiction to either.

                        That's all I was suggesting.

                        It's not a cure, it's not going to stop the addiction, it's just an actionable bandaid if you're in a predicament like the OP is.

                        But, yeah, I get it you hate alcohol and blah blah blah blah blah blah.

                        • Tachanka [comrade/them]
                          ·
                          2 years ago

                          well i'm sorry i misunderstood the receptor thing. I've lived with alcoholics but i have never been an alcoholic. having lived with alcoholics I find it sus when people tell each other to use alcohol. Apologies.

                          • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
                            ·
                            2 years ago

                            It's fine, I didn't explain it well and I get pissed off when people get judgy about the booze and lack of medical care stuff.

                            I'm more sorry

                              • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
                                ·
                                2 years ago

                                Lmao I hope you have a good day too, I'm sorry this all is just hitting a very personal note on a lot of levels. I deserve the toilet

                                  • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
                                    ·
                                    2 years ago

                                    Here's a source fwiw, I should have included this originally. It was not the kind of post to be lazy on and I appreciate being called out on it.

                                    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4606320

                                    Benzodiazepines are cross-tolerant with alcohol and modulate anxiolysis by stimulating GABA-A receptors [24]. During withdrawal from one agent, the other may serve as a substitute. They are proven to reduce withdrawal severity and incidence of both seizures and delirium tremens (DT) [40–42].

                                    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
                                      ·
                                      2 years ago

                                      Thanks for sharing! I genuinely was not educated about any of that, so I appreciate it. I'll try to be less stigmatic towards alcohol use in the future.