I've been hearing more and more really scary shit about how Turkey is handling the aftermath of this earthquake. From strangling communications used, among other things, by people trapped to tell rescuers they're alive, to preventing the movement of people internally, a general lack of mobilization of emergency resources that were supposed to be in place and paid for by a specific tax after the last devastating quakes.
Very specifically the better times they lived through under the old AKP and the parliamentary system.
The corruption is rather blatant and out there. It's not really a matter of convincing anyone. Not per se.
People are conscious of their identity and the political projects that they support. Turkiye also has a complicated history going back to the ethnic cleansings of muslims from the balkans, through the armenian genocide, and the francophile secularist junta's efforts to attack the kurdish identity and religious groups. The latter turns to be the 'lower caste' of the country if you go back 2 generations or so. So in any event the different political parties are all competing and contradicting one another, playing by the rules of political action. And of course people don't necessarily trust each other. Erdogan manages to create a solid demographic out of mainly socially conservative religious people, and pretty much purged the state with the help of the gulenists. So he has free run of the country. And the freedom to pillage as much as he wishes.
What state control of media does is kill any discussion that can undermine that. But ultimately the person who thinks a CHP government is gonna even manage to outlaw the veil is gonna see what they want to see and believe what they want to believe. There's a meme in Turkish internet where a young person comes up to a street interview and says they work 50 hours a week, have no money, eat every other day, has no prospects, wishes he could flee the country. Then an old person comes by and asks if they have a smartphone. If they do, then they are whiners and things are actually good. Thing is, those people aren't privileged boomers either. They are often poor, poorer than the suburbanites. But they are religious and they are completely captured by state media. They are also loyal to Erdogan. So it's easy to spin things in ways that mean Erdogan is not at fault and should still deserve their vote.
Just want to thank the two of you for a very informative conversation.