• nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Do you have an alternative proposal? This conflict was going to happen one way or another because of NATO and America's arming literal nazis. I don't think there's any reasonable analysis of this that doesn't acknowledge that.

    • Camaron29 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Oh cool, thank god Russia doesn't arm literal nazis such as, let's say, the Wagner group.

      Please, if you are trying to analyze the conflict don't sound like you are trying to turn Putin into some antinazi icon.

        • Camaron29 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Oh cool, do nazis run ministries in the US, do they commit progroms????? I guess they are not a problem either.

          Lmao, thank god nazis are not a problem unless they control the upper echelons of the government.

          • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Didn't answer the question, deflect to an imagined point I didn't make. Oh yeah, it's :reddit-logo: time.

          • CTHlurker [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I mean, the far right in the US does run ministries. Like, half of the Republican party is either explicitly fascist or close enough. And that's not even getting into local governments in the US, where every single police department is more or less just a paramilitary force for whatever purpose they think they should serve.

            • Camaron29 [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              You can literally make most of those points about russia too. As i've said, pretending russia is doing this for some noble antifascist reason is incredibly naive and frankly embarrasing.

                • Camaron29 [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  Deflection? This was literally about some guy pretending the Wagner group is ok because they are silly little guys with no power. Acting exactly like the liberals with Azov.

                    • Camaron29 [he/him]
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                      2 years ago

                      Yes, and liberals also say that the Azov's group influence is overblown.

                      Consume state dept propaganda and my positions falling in line with them?¿?¿?¿

                      Hilarious, please, point to me where have i ever defended this war or supported Ukraine. Is "no to this war" the official US position? Has Biden critiziced Zelensky and it's gang of nazis???

                      Stop with the mindless drivel, you people randomly spew buzzwords before even reading what someone else is actually saying.

                        • Camaron29 [he/him]
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                          2 years ago

                          "Haha, silly Lenin, how dare you say both sides are the same, don't you know we must defend our people against french aggression??"

                          For someone antiwar you do seem too keen in justifying Putin. This war is both his and the US fault.