https://www.insider.com/tiktok-north-korea-account-highlighting-life-propaganda-influencers-youtube-2023-2

  • macabrett
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    2 years ago

    Saw a comment on one of the videos "Pay attention to the colour of the Kid’s jackets and how they want to highlight them smiling"

    The kids jackets are just brightly colored... like kids jackets. You can't deprogram the western man :stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:

    • Washburn [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

      • :parenti:
      • SaniFlush [any, any]
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        2 years ago

        I need to start saving parenti's quotes in a clipboard somewhere

        • CommunistBear [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Good news is that if you just Google "The Parenti quote" it now comes up as one of the first links which is incredibly funny

        • emizeko [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          So you compare a country to what it came from, with all its imperfections... and those who demand instant perfection, the day after the revolution they get up and say "are there civil liberties for the fascists?? Do they get to have their newspapers and their radio programmes? Are they gonna be able to keep all their farms?"

          The PASSION that some of our liberals feel the day after the revolution - the passion and concern they feel for the fascists, the civil rights and civil liberties of those fascists - who were dumping and destroying and murdering people before.

          My criteria is - what happens to those people that couldn't read? What happens to those babies that couldn't eat, that died of hunger? See that's why I support revolution. The REVOLUTION that feeds the children gets my support.

          —Michael Parenti

          • NPa [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Quick-scoping a 14-year old and instantly posting all of Blackshirts and Reds in the chat to dunk on him :party-parenti:

    • UlyssesT
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      1 day ago

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    • space_comrade [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      There's a small amount of people calling people on their shit in reply to those kinds of comments though. Also the vids tend to have a bunch of likes, I think the ideology might be very slowly cracking.

  • MaoistLandlord [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The North Koreans are… moving? I thought they just stood still and stared blankly at the wall until a westerner arrives and they activate their preprogrammed routines

    • Teekeeus
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      10 days ago

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      • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        The news tells them to.

        And then tells them to.

        And then tells them to.

        And then tells them to.

        And then tells them to.

        And then tells them to.

  • SuperZutsuki [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I think real Korea's trying to show the world how extremely normal life there is and that life under capitalism is actually fucking horrible. Hope it works.

    Now I'm imagining something akin to journalists not being able to take a photo of Ukrainian troops without capturing obvious Nazi symbols except it's no matter where you point a camera in real Korea you see happy people living life to the fullest.

      • Washburn [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        What if they developed their productive forces and used those improved productive forces to increase people's standards of living across the whole country so that no matter where you look, people are living longer, better lives today than they were yesterday, all to try and trick us into thinking communism works?

      • buh [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        all the world's a stage :marx-joker:

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    2 years ago

    YouTube channels that are believed to be state-sanctioned

    This has never been a problem before. Why would you care n-

    someone whispers in my ear, explaining which state is sanctioning the channels

    Ooooo. Oh yeah. Fuck. That's a huge problem. I hope they get taken down.

    • supafuzz [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Hunched over, broken-spirited people in identical shabby grey uniforms. Skeletal from famine. In crumbling, overgrown, unfinished concrete buildings. Ünderland from the Venture Bros basically.

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      What exactly are the people leaving comments expecting to see?

      A lib I know thinks literally every North Korean is in the military.

      He's thankfully anti-Israel but he thinks every Israeli is in the military also; when I asked him who he thinks works at banks, factories, etc. he said "....the women?"

      He doesn't seem to understand what military service actually entails.

    • AHopeOnceMore [he/him]B
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      2 years ago

      Empty streets, fearful people living dreary lives, poverty, and pointless and odd conformity.

      The western propaganda characterizes the entire country as a prison with wacky rules.

    • TheModerateTankie [any]
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      2 years ago

      A potemkin village the size of a country, where actors are transported around the state via trains pulled by starving elders and children, to wherever westerners are taking photographs and video.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    West is going to have to u-turn on the way it portrays DPRK soon as more and more people are going to start asking questions.

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I've yet to watch it but the description (and some of the comments) make it sound like it's a positive portrayal; isn't it literally illegal in South Korea to portray North Korea in a positive light?

      • maliy_yastreb [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        It's a German film by a professor who renounced her South Korean citizenship and became a German citizen specifically to avoid being charged with treason.

  • BogMonster [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    the most propagandized people on earth absolutely malding in the comments.

    :lenin-laugh:

  • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    one of the older videos show elderly men being selected for one of their notorious grandpa trains

  • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    How is this surprising? Even if you're :grillman:, wouldn't you just be genuinely at least a little bit curious on what goes on in the average day in North Korea?

    Even kid me was looking up what the average day in Sub-saharan African countries was like, there's no way in hell to believe all those countries are just a fucking jungle.

  • Discopanda [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Of course they had to write its state sanctioned because after decades of propaganda no one would believe that people in North Korea are trying to live a normal life, they commute, have fun activities on their free time etc.

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Nah, it's definitely state sanctioned. As the state basically has control over everything in the country, over every kind of facility and such, it does make sense you'd have to get state approval to access the internet, and frankly you see similar in other parts of the world in just simply a very decentralized way. For example as a pharmacist you have access to medicine but you need legal approval in addition to approval from state sanctioned facilities, and this is to protect both yourself and others.

      In North Korea, if you're going to be in touch with noxious elements like libs Westerners, you need to first have state sanctioned approval as there's yet to be a hazmat suit for cognitohazards.

      For examples, you can have a brief trip to any reddit comment section to see what I'm talking about but you do so at your own risk. Brain bleach is just a myth and you can't really clean your mind of what you read there.