That's not how movements work. People who agree on the issue being able to work towards a shared goal even if they disagree fundamentally about everything else is a sign of a successful campaign.
The anti-vietnam war movement wasn't all leftists either
Interesting, most of the residents of the third world are terrorized by the imperialist fascist empire regardless of which imperialist fascist party is in charge
Those are good things, sure, but what exactly is the strategy for how this group hopes to achieve them? Making demands that you have no power to back up is pointless idealism.
The BLM marches were at least willing to use force to make their point, this event is just "Hey pls stop your massively profitable war because we're asking nicely
Yeah dude, protesting against police murder is definitely the same thing as the going to a rally with Tulsi Gabbard, Jimmy Dore and the Libertarian party.
Yeah dude, protesting against imperialism and world war 3 is definitely the same thing as the going to a rally with Kamala Harris, Joe Biden and the Democratic Party
A nationwide movement with aims like "stop killing black people" or "spend less money on cops" is being a lot more realistic than a handful of cranks saying "disband NATO."
Looks like a pretty clear message of ending the war, not a whole bunch of other stuff that's obviously never going to happen. Also doesn't look to be run by chud grifters lol.
The difference is that the people involved are actually reputable (afaik). If they got concessions, it wouldn't be chud grifters negotiating what those concessions look like. Personally, I don't like the tendency for protests to have broad, general demands with no plan for achieving them, but I can put up with it if it's people on my side saying it, because if they ever need to negotiate their actual demands I can trust them to do so.
These are all good and even MORE “unrealistic” (according to you), I would say “broad”, than the other anti-war rally. That makes it better not worse, you must’ve never gotten off your ass and protested anything.
Ah, the classic, "If you're not on board with this specific protest with extremely sus leadership you're completely worthless," tact. That kind of thing just tells me that you're opposed to the idea of vetting movements altogether, which confirms to me that I can safely disregard your perspective.
Nobody likes any of these people. Other than ron paul, only like 0.25% of the country knows about any of these goons
reporting on them just makes actual leftists look crazy which is an objective of the state department
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I agree but these speakers aren't leftists
I'd rather not have my political opinions associated with right-wing antivaxxers
That's not how movements work. People who agree on the issue being able to work towards a shared goal even if they disagree fundamentally about everything else is a sign of a successful campaign.
The anti-vietnam war movement wasn't all leftists either
Yeah, that would be true if we weren't talking about fascists. Theres no good that will ever come from joining a movement with fascists
reverse night of long knives, but if we had the ability to do that we could just do it without the fake teamup
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Interesting, most of the residents of the third world are terrorized by the imperialist fascist empire regardless of which imperialist fascist party is in charge
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Those are good things, sure, but what exactly is the strategy for how this group hopes to achieve them? Making demands that you have no power to back up is pointless idealism.
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The BLM marches were at least willing to use force to make their point, this event is just "Hey pls stop your massively profitable war because we're asking nicely
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Yeah dude, protesting against police murder is definitely the same thing as the going to a rally with Tulsi Gabbard, Jimmy Dore and the Libertarian party.
Yeah dude, protesting against imperialism and world war 3 is definitely the same thing as the going to a rally with Kamala Harris, Joe Biden and the Democratic Party
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A nationwide movement with aims like "stop killing black people" or "spend less money on cops" is being a lot more realistic than a handful of cranks saying "disband NATO."
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Looks like a pretty clear message of ending the war, not a whole bunch of other stuff that's obviously never going to happen. Also doesn't look to be run by chud grifters lol.
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The difference is that the people involved are actually reputable (afaik). If they got concessions, it wouldn't be chud grifters negotiating what those concessions look like. Personally, I don't like the tendency for protests to have broad, general demands with no plan for achieving them, but I can put up with it if it's people on my side saying it, because if they ever need to negotiate their actual demands I can trust them to do so.
Ah, the classic, "If you're not on board with this specific protest with extremely sus leadership you're completely worthless," tact. That kind of thing just tells me that you're opposed to the idea of vetting movements altogether, which confirms to me that I can safely disregard your perspective.