Hm, these "Foundation of Economic Education" folks don't sound too bad...
The Foundation for Economic Education is listed as a partner organization of the Charles Koch Institute.[3]
Lol
To sum up the vid:
It's not actually communism, it's democratic participation in a cooperative, classless society with the goal of meeting each other's needs and contributing to the greater whole!
:engels-wut:
It's also not new! Early societies have done this and certain groups of people do it today!
:marx-hi:
I suppose the response to these kinds of bad faith arguments is "Cool, maybe it's not communism. So why are we not choosing this over Capitalism then?"
(Admittedly, I haven't watched the show so maybe he is right and Jackson is not really a Communist society, just not with the arguments he presented.)
How do you read a bunch of white militia guys going around killing harmless ex-collaborators as "revolutionaries", is it just because they have guns and got rid of fedra or is there more?
Like, were they portrayed differently in the game, am I missing something, what's up?
They are also hell bent on hunting down a black man and his child.
It was a mass uprising of people against a fascist military dictatorship which is pretty revolutionary imho but they're written to be unreasonably evil for some reason so they ignore all the actual issues (including the imminent threat of hordes of zombies under their city about to burst up) and hunt down a collaborator till the ends of the earth at the behest of their leader who is very clearly not thinking straight due to grief yet goes unquestioned. In the game they don't have the whole "hunting down traitors" plot line, instead they're just made to be psychos who hunt people for sport (and they don't all die at the end).
It's like a reactionary caricature of the French revolution. In both the show and the game it would not affect the plot at all to make them regular-ass people just trying to protect their home from threats. It would make more sense if they were like that. It might even be interesting to portray them as a commune like Jackson to contrast Joel's action in the two places. Instead the writers consciously wrote in this whole "revolution gone too far" background plot. It might just be so the player doesn't feel bad about killing all these people, but they rehash the same line on revolution in the second game which leads me to believe they are making a point.
In the game it also mentions that the hunters kicked out/murdered the Fireflies after they overthrew Fedra because the Fireflies were too controlling. Maybe I'm reading too deep into it, but it seems like the implication is that the Fireflies are the enlightened ones and the regular people are too greedy/selfish/stupid to govern themselves. Even the portrayal of Joel at the end of the first game and into the second is kind of like that.
Edit: To add on top of that, the Fireflies are constantly portrayed as naive and idealistic for believing they can restore constitutional government and yet we have multiple examples of people rising up and overthrowing Fedra in the few remaining strongholds of civilization left. Why is that?