I can’t really find an example right now, but I’ve seen conservative tellings of the civil rights era that were along the lines of the following:

“Restaurant owners and other business owners in the southern states wanted to be able to accept black patrons (because they were businessmen after all, and the only color they cared about was green), but because of Democrat Big Government, they weren’t allowed to”

The way I recall it is that this premise was then used in support of an equivalency between Jim Crow laws and Civil Rights laws, i.e. “First they were prohibited from taking customers that they wanted, and now they’re being forced to take all customers, even ones that they don’t want”.

I’m sure this is bullshit, but honestly I don’t know enough about that part of American history to refute it, and it kind of does make intuitive sense that a restaurant owner would want as many patrons as possible. So can one of you more knowledgeable folks here debunk it?

  • Tripbin [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    lol those same conservatives and their children and grandchildren are still like that. Best part of getting out of the south is not having to hear people unironically talk about the civil war and the south rising again ALL THE FUCKING TIME. These people have no hobbies other than hunting for the thrill of the kill like a psychopath, pretending their upper middle class asses were doing it to "survive", and shit talking people of color.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I still don't quite understand why they're coy about being racists. They're clearly proud of it but i guess it's just enough of a bad look?

      • Tripbin [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        After Obama was elected the amount of openly spoken racism in the public down here shot up a damn good amount. Then after trump was elected teachers can tell you stories about how often students would randomly chant build the wall or lock her up and the schools just ignored it to be "apolitical" while even classical racial slurs kept increasing.

        But hey, when 3/4s of your "teachers"...actually mostly sport coaches with zero interest in actually teaching kids and they literally had to send letters home to inform parents that they're not qualified to teach and all the parents signed it anyway like that's not a huge fucking deal.

        Add in that almost all were conservative religious nuts (at a public school) and I guess it's expected.

        Fuck the dozens of hours I've spent watching that snuff film passion of the Christ because of those weirdo Christan fucks.

      • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The so-called Lost Cause of the South went through two iterations.

        First is to deny the fact that the Confederacy's legacy was fundamentally about preserving slavery in order to justify the preservation of racial stratification. Slavery had been a political poison pill even before the civil war so naturally you wouldn't want it to be associated with your wholesome racial hierarchy (which you'd want since it keeps the huwhite poors in line by having them fixate on black people). Post-Civil Rights is when its purpose eventually changed as a means to try to preserve as many facets as possible of the segregated South once (overt) racism became the political poison pill.

        The funny thing about the ideological superstructure is that the people pushing it for entirely cynical reasons are susceptible to eventually buy it (or at least their children or grandchildren are). Sure, you still have people even in the newer generations who understand it entirely for what it is and embrace it (Dylann Roof, those aforementioned chuds who lost it once Obama got elected) or at least keep it behind closed doors (like many interviewees in those posted articles). But there are many such instances where the Lost Cause is touted by people who are only subconsciously racist, and even might have black family members and such (something their forebears would disown if not lynch them over).