Nobody is willing to even entertain the idea that West isn't Best. Suggesting that whitey shouldn't rule the world is received as if you'd advocated cannibalism, and you will be condescended to and treated like an ignorant child even as they make it clear they know much less than you do about the subject at hand, if not outright ejected from the community. It's not just bots and manufacturing consent, either - it happens to me in real life just as easily as it happens online.
Anyone who isn't unconditionally anti-NATO and anti-American hegemony is a white supremacist. No exceptions.
Love this place, though. I think I'd go crazy if it wasn't for you guys. Glad I have somewhere to get this off my chest :soviet-heart:
I have found that with some people it's a non-starter, but not quite as bad as you've run into! I am curious, it sounds like these might be group situations?
I usually don't bring up any of the actually left internationalist stuff unless I've got an hour+ and rarely in a group setting, 3 others might've been the most I've dealt with directly like that. I've made quite a few comrades, even essentially deprogrammed some people who just fell down the reactionary path of explaining why everything keeps getting worse (my positions on COVID vaccines as neoliberal bludgeons has proved seriously beneficial with those types), and nobody really tries to get condescending in a 1-on-1 situation.
Even better of course is having another person who is on the same page with you, as long as they're sufficiently educated and patient I've found it's often possible to individualize the message and address the specific phrases that trigger the gut response that propaganda has imparted on them.