Yeah I was about to say I'm not sure thats the point they want to be making here. There are also more white people in Australia than indigenous people. That wouldn't be a point against decolonizing Australia.
It's not some recent thing. The area has been split between the Chinese farmers along the Yellow river, and a succession of horse nomads north of the river, for more than two thousand years.
There's no comparison. Chinese agriculture and civilization developed along the Yellow river basin and floodplain back in pre-history.
The settled societies there have been raided by horse nomads since the bronze age, and were alternately fighting, exchanging tribute, and creating marriage alliances with them for thousands of years before the Mongol tribes united and migrated into the area.
That the settled and nomadic peoples were intermingling in the area for all of recorded history. That's not colonialism.
The Mongols tribes weren't even subjugated by the Han, they were pushed out by the Jurchen, another nomadic confederation , that also went on to subjugate China for several centuries.
Isn't that the outcome you would expect from colonialism?
Yeah I was about to say I'm not sure thats the point they want to be making here. There are also more white people in Australia than indigenous people. That wouldn't be a point against decolonizing Australia.
For the record, I'm against balkanizing China.
It's not some recent thing. The area has been split between the Chinese farmers along the Yellow river, and a succession of horse nomads north of the river, for more than two thousand years.
The English colonization of Ireland also took place over a thousand years, but we still recognize it.
There's no comparison. Chinese agriculture and civilization developed along the Yellow river basin and floodplain back in pre-history.
The settled societies there have been raided by horse nomads since the bronze age, and were alternately fighting, exchanging tribute, and creating marriage alliances with them for thousands of years before the Mongol tribes united and migrated into the area.
Yes, the subjugation and displacement of the Mongol people is relatively recent on the stage of history. What's your point?
That the settled and nomadic peoples were intermingling in the area for all of recorded history. That's not colonialism.
The Mongols tribes weren't even subjugated by the Han, they were pushed out by the Jurchen, another nomadic confederation , that also went on to subjugate China for several centuries.