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They both hate China and Russia for varying reasons. Democrats think that these countries are unstoppable schemers and Republicans hate them because they are either communist, or a threat to American dominance. Many Republicans have a big soft spot for Russia though because they admire some aspects of their culture and mask off corruption.
However I think if you talk to a Republican that is willing to listen it is easier to convince them that these countries are not their enemy. Democrats are :frothingfash: non-stop throughout the conversation and will refuse to accept that their view is misinformed.
Another trick is not using programed buzz words like "communism" that they have been indoctrinated to hate.
They for the most part, are people that generally don't really understand anything, which is why they love being told what to think. I wouldn't expect their entire programming to shatter from one conversation, but they are more likely than a democrat to not dig their heels in. I have a friend that regularly loves having that conversation with anyone and he has found that Republicans are closer to class consciousness than Democrats are. It may not be for admirable or well meaning reasons, but they are more willing to accept bigger things are at play they haven't yet understood. Which again comes from the same part of them that enjoys being told what to think... this is why conservative punditry is massive.
The real, no shit, out in the world chud with a punisher skull on his truck is not who I am referring to, and you and I both know they are a lost cause. Things are also a bit different anymore. In the 80s and 90s it would have been near fucking impossible to convince a westerner that any ounce of anti-capitalism was the way forward. The game is changing today, people are becoming more skeptical. The unreachable chuds that are going further off the deep end are doing so because they think it will solve their life problems.
also, anybody who is a white guy having conversations with republicans is not reporting accurate data. anybody who has had to interact with conservative white men as a not white man can easily confirm this.
Not sure what you are insinuating about this. If you referring to my friend I mentioned, he is black, and his militant attitude is why he is confrontational. My personal experience when conversing with co-workers is not that they are going to be told one thing and change their mind permanently, as they will just be re-programed the moment they go back to listening to their media. The point I am trying to make is that in the moment it is sometimes easier to talk to Republicans about these issues. People's politics don't always operate on a smoothly sliding scale. Which again I can speak from experience that talking with some Democrats can bring out how right-wing they actually are when you start asking fundamental questions. The most hard-headed co-workers I have had these conversations with are people who solidly and proudly vote Democrat. They truly have stars in their eyes that things work.
Also I understand that my own anecdotal experiences may not match yours, but please don't assume you understand mine better than I do. It isn't a "miscalculation" when a Republican co-worker genuinely asks me how universal healthcare is supposed to work and by the end of the conversation, they can at very least see how it works.
Respect and all the best. :stalin-heart:
It seems like the last good opening towards war with China was during the 90s when Russia was completely destroyed by neoliberal shock therapy and ran by compradors. I think you mentioned the Hainan incident almost leading to war, which would line up with the timeline.
Yh this is a really interesting illustration of a recurrent contradiction between the social form of the nation state which capitalism still exists in/with and which determines the state as an organ and expression of class dominance, and the narrow view of the individual capitalist.
I think China getting them to place huge amounts of investment and productive capital there was partially taking advantage of the prisoner's dilemma intrinsic to capitalism: for the individual capitalist, it made sense to take advantage of those profits in China. But in the long-run this undermines the power of their own nation state( especially because the CPC will not allow foreign capitalists to associate themselves as intimately with their own state as with their original one), and therefore undermines their interests as a collective national bourgeoisie (or, even if international, with a national base).
Also then a contradiction between the imperialism of neoliberalism (and the need to keep europe and co under yankie domination) and the desires or interests of their capitalists.
Rachel would probably rant about one topic throughout dinner, not letting me get a word in edgewise. Tucker would probably be a better conversationalist, but idk about that confused expression. On the other hand, Tucker would probably be a selfish lover afterwards so...
...wait, what was the question?
Tucker Carlson seems to me like one of those guys that you'd think is completely normal just having a conversation with him. Talk about the weather and sports and whatever the fuck, never knowing all the fucked up bullshit going on in his head
Everyone would think we're a cute couple until they find my dismembered remains in a series of suitcases in his storage unit.
And Tucker used to be in CNN
Liberals will tell you the media is free because liberals platform fascists and opportunists
A prolonged bit by Tim Heidecker (of Tim and Eric). A fake trial (about deaths at a festival he hosted) was livestreamed for several days IIRC.
