• axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    The abortion bans have to be some of the most short sighted, dogmatically stupid policies I've ever seen in America. It's purely self-destructive. Nobody wants this outside of the most bloodless bone-fingered evangelicals. Hospitals don't want this, and the staff don't want to risk losing their medical licenses, so they're going to eliminate anything that even comes close to abortion, including standard birth care or obgyns. There's going to be a gentle collapse of hospitals the same way as schools. No one wants to be an overworked teacher for low pay and the possibility of being shot. No one wants to be a medical worker who'll get charged with a felony for doing or recommending a medical procedure. We already lost a double digit percentage of medical workers from covid, now what, we're supposed to lose even more because of draconian laws that don't work?

    Like abortion bans fundamentally do not do what these hogs want. They don't end abortions, they just make them more unsafe. Banning abortion isn't pro-natal either in a vacuum. You're not going to get a population increase from this, that's not how it works.

    You know who has a population crisis right now, but has also banned abortion for decades? Japan. Yeah, that's right. Abortion is only de jure legal in Japan in cases of incest, sexual assault, or life threatening illness. It's not fully or strictly enforced, but it has caused abortion in clinics to be suppressed. It's also caused extremely stupid situations where women need permission from a brother, husband, father, etc to get healthcare. There have been multiple instances where a woman has needed written permission from the piece of shit who assaulted them to get healthcare. And that's probably the stupidest shit in the whole world. Also look at New Zealand where abortion wasn't fully legalized until 2020. Same problem as Japan, increasingly elderly population and stagnant growth.

    You know who has a stable population growth? Vietnam and China, both places where abortion is easily obtained. Population growth has literally no correlation with abortion restrictions. The USSR already figured this out when they went back and forth on abortion laws to force some kind of population growth. They figured out bans don't work and aren't helpful, and that was nearly 100 years ago.

    I hate conservatives so much. They don't know what they want. They don't know how to implement policies to get what they want. They only know how to be reactionary morons.

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      • blobjim [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        can't believe there's people on hexbear that still donz"'t understand this.

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yes. Making laws to execute women is personally very safe, while going out and shooting women will probably get a person in jail. They do this via the state because that's the safest way to satiate their literal bloodlust.

    • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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      2 years ago

      They don’t know how to implement policies to get what they want. They only know how to be reactionary morons

      This is one of the more striking aspects of American conservatives; the way they reject any method that achieves their goals more effectively if it involves showing an ounce of compassion towards someone they deem inferior.

      In America, anti-abortion advocates stand outside clinics calling women whores or tricking them with fake clinics to waste their time until they're no longer able to get a legal abortion.

      In Belgium, there's catholic groups that give money to women who would otherwise seek an abortion to cover living expenses or even childcare if they choose not to put it up for adoption.

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Like abortion bans fundamentally do not do what these hogs want. They don’t end abortions,

      Stop taking these psychos at their word. They just want to punish Bad People and make their lives worse, abortion bans accomplish that.

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